a New scam?

[AndrewJ]

I am trying to sell my boat and here is one response I received. This might be of interest to anyone selling a boat.

Naturally I was quick to supply the requested information so he could drain my accounts.


""

Good Day,
Thanks for the email,I would really appreciate it if you sell the boat to me.I am a dealer of boat, and i have a client who i am supplying it to.I would also handle the shipping myself and i will
be responsible for the expenses also.I would need you to kindly
confirm the following for me immediately so that payment can be
reffered to your account.

BANK NAME:
BANK ADDRESS:
CITY:
STATE:
ZIP CODE :
PHONE NUMBER
ACCOUNT NAME:
ACCOUNT NUMBER:
ROUTING NUMBER:
SWIFT CODE:
YOUR FULL NAME:
ADDRESS:
PHONE NUMBER:

So please kindly send me the following so that payment could reflect into your account immediately and as soon as your bank has gotten payment and it has been cleared i will need you to notify me so that my shipper can come for the pick-up and ship it to me.So i would be glad if all these details can be confirmed and we could start off with the transaction asap.Thanks.

Regards,
Mr Franky. D""


---MY RESPONSE-

"YOU MUST BE JOKING. yOU CAN BUY THE BOAT FROM ME BY SENDING ME A CASHIERS CHECK DRAWN ON A REPUTABLE BANK IN THE FULL AMOUNT, OR ALTERNATELY, HAVING YOUR AGENT BRING THE CHECK. I WILL THEN TURN OVER THE KEYS. IF YOU AGREE, I WILL SEND YOU CONTACT INSTRUCTIONS.

HAVE A NICE DAY?""





<hr width=100% size=1>The only easy day was yesterday

 

[CharlesM]

Andrew

That most certainly is a scam. I have read about it somewhere, possibly on YBW. Perhaps you could send the email to some law enforcement agency? Not sure if they could trace the origin, but you never know.

Charles

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[snowleopard]

i believe the way it works is that they transfer funds to you from an obscure bank which your bank tells you are 'cleared', often for more than the agreed price. you hand over the boat and the excess cash (for 'shipping expenses') then a few weeks later your bank tells you the transfer bounced and they take the funds back out of your account leaving you out of pocket without a boat. nice.

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[GrahamSC]

Another bright spark offered to pay for a hifi with cash that he drew from a cash machine in the presence of the vendor. He then offered to drive back to the vendors house to pick up the goods where he would pay for them. He then switched the cash for counterfiet notes, paid the vendor and vanished .
Is this the enterprise culture we hear so much about, you look out there, they are everywhere,
GrahamSC

<hr width=100% size=1>Never recovered from loss of Tot, 1974

 

[McNab]

Basically some form of Nigerean scam, I have a mate at Scotland Yard Fraud Squad, guess what, one day they also got one.

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[LiamS]

Am currently selling my boat she is advertised on a few reputable sites but still I have received a number of these emails.I think they must trawl all sites.They are usually in quite poor english yet very respectful (a lot of sirs etc.).They generally ask for pictures including engine to appear normal.I sent them a picture of my dog, and their client was happy with it!!!The client will have paid for a boat recently which has developed problems to the extent that he is now getting his money back.....the cheque he is waiting for is from a broker and is always higher than your asking price which he has already agreed to pay you.In my case the cheque was to be about 8000 Euros higher than I was asking.On receipt of the cheque you are to return the difference.You are sending a genuine cheque on the foot of the funds that you have lodged.This lodged cheque will turn out to be fake and so will not be credited to you but the cheque that you sent to the buyer will be cashed and your account debited!!..............A bit long winded but that is how they do it!

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[AndrewJ]

Thanks for the info. I just got another email from the guy and he said is going to send a check drawn on a reputable bank. We'll see what happens. I really appreciate the warning. I probably would not have thought of that.


<hr width=100% size=1>The only easy day was yesterday

 

[[2068]]

Just be aware that cheques from any foreign bank can take 20-30 days to be rejected !!!

They appear as "cleared funds" but they aren't really cleared for ages. Check with your bank for details, but the only safe way to transfer money across borders is to wire the money via SWIFT or similar system, which is probably why he was asking for these details. He can't syphon money from you just from knowing your SWIFT code, it's a "push" process, not a "pull".

He might be genuine...

dv.

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[milltech]

I think for many countries, even within the EU, 20 to 30 days would seem mighty fast. Things may have improved since it's probably seven or eight years since I last had one, but it was French and took six weeks.


<hr width=100% size=1>John
http://www.on-line-marine.com

 

[ex-Gladys]

The full story was in a recent PBO and a poliice force was asking to be informed

<hr width=100% size=1>Larry Botheras

Anderson 26 "Amber"

 

[snowleopard]

a cruising friend recently found that a west african gang based in london had got hold of a lot of his financial details (searching a dustbin perhaps). the crooks then started a sequence of registering a change of address then trying to transfer funds to other accounts.

fraudsters pay kids to raid dustbins and pay good money for names, addresses and especially account numbers. get a shredder and don't give out your account number.

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[LeonF]

I have had the same e-mail twice. The irony is that they are offering to buy my Fantasie 19 which I sold some 3 years ago. I have had the e-mail twice and replied that it had been sold. The reply was bounced back.

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[Trevor_swfyc]

Evidently even a Bankers Draft cannot be trusted, a club member lost a £20,000 motor boat and trailer. He accepted the bankers draft helped the guy who turned up with a tow vehicle to hitch it up and that was the last he saw of his boat, the bankers draft turned out to be a forgery.

A neigbour advertised his BMW, had somebody phone up very interested, turned up with his wife they said they wanted it but wanted a drive in it. The would be purchaser offered his range rover keys as security which was accepted. Neigbour went back inside with the keys to hear both cars rapidly drive off, £20,000 car never seen again.

Take care
Trevor







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