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Well I am old and did my training decades ago.
Places like Instow and Dunbarton could be found on the old charts. Sounds like the new ones would be an even worse nightmare, I like real world problems.
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Places like Instow and Dunbarton could be found on the old charts. Sounds like the new ones would be an even worse nightmare, I like real world problems.
Skylark
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Thread drift alert. One of the best trips that I’ve done was to move my pals boat from Corfu to Venice. We were 4, 2 CIs and 2 YMIs. Very relaxing as it was good to sail with competent and very experienced sailors.
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capnsensible
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The over sixty mile passage plan is given as an excercise to candidates as part of their exam. As this is never actually going to be sailed, it doesn't matter what charts you use.
It's a good way though of allowing candidates to demonstrate their knowledge. Or not!
A great deal of effort went into the creation of the training charts so that all aspects of the theory courses can be taught. They enable the questions to be refreshed as time moves on and enables instructors to set their own problems for revision or to explain techniques. Hardly back of a beer mat! The staff names bit is true though
It's a good way though of allowing candidates to demonstrate their knowledge. Or not!
A great deal of effort went into the creation of the training charts so that all aspects of the theory courses can be taught. They enable the questions to be refreshed as time moves on and enables instructors to set their own problems for revision or to explain techniques. Hardly back of a beer mat! The staff names bit is true though
Nina Lucia
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I did my Yacht Master with Nomad Sailing from Gosport marina last year. We all had a fantastic time , really great guys to do with! I can highly recommend them!Morning !
I’m thinking of doing my YM Coastal practical in the Solent this Summer. Has anyone had experience or recommend any companies ?
cheers ?
Never Grumble
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Surely if you are doing a YM you should be above basic sailing and navigation? I did one years ago albeit on a motorboat so have the in brackets power bit. I will check that book out that you recommend, one day I'll convert mine to a sailing one.
Babylon
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Re the question of whether the crew on a 5-day YM (offshore or coastal) prep course should be made up of some CC and/or DS people or a more experienced YM-oriented group, I'd be interested to hear what the instructors here think is optimal?
I suspect that - in practice - it is likely going to depend on how many applicants at different skill levels the school has at any given time!
FWIW the rest of the crew on my own Coastal Skipper prep week about ten years ago (now of course renamed YM Coastal) was made up of four other people doing DS - none of whom had ever spent much time on a yacht and none had ever done any theory! I had the miles, the YM theory and about three years skippering my own boat, so (in-between 'helping' instruct, politely telling Tony to stop talking shit while I was concentrating on blind-nav, and later cleaning up his vomit) I felt I wasn't getting the best training experience. Oh, and the boat wasn't available at all on the first day, and the school forgot to book the examiner!
I suspect that - in practice - it is likely going to depend on how many applicants at different skill levels the school has at any given time!
FWIW the rest of the crew on my own Coastal Skipper prep week about ten years ago (now of course renamed YM Coastal) was made up of four other people doing DS - none of whom had ever spent much time on a yacht and none had ever done any theory! I had the miles, the YM theory and about three years skippering my own boat, so (in-between 'helping' instruct, politely telling Tony to stop talking shit while I was concentrating on blind-nav, and later cleaning up his vomit) I felt I wasn't getting the best training experience. Oh, and the boat wasn't available at all on the first day, and the school forgot to book the examiner!
capnsensible
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Yeah. It's just quite often people go for the exam having not sailed for, sometimes, ages. You can see it straight away in prep weeks. Makes you think 'if only they had been out for a week or two more recently to be up to speed'.
I know some on here don't put much store in the fast track approach, but those lads and lasses are a joy in to coach in the week before their exams. Almost all are well worked up, ready and most certainly willing to have a go.
capnsensible
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For sure, it's commercially driven. To get enough to run just a prep week is very difficult, especially for smaller schools. You gotta ride with the enquirers you get. I see some schools advertising nominated weeks for various courses, but, well, let's say it doesn't always pan out like that.
Personally, I don't mind any mix on board. For the candidates, it should not be a training week but getting to use your existing skills on using your team and getting familiar with the exam boat. But hey, we all know real world.
When working at UK schools, I just got on with whatever I was given. Much the same in Gib. But once we had our own school I understood the economics much better. So our tweak made things a tad different especially as nearly everyone had to fly in. I would run the course over five normal days with whatever mix. In advance we would ask non exam takers if they were willing to stay on free to crew on exam day. Bingo. Probably wouldn't work in UK. Even pre covid most needed to work the boats at weekends as well as mid week. But gave us a fab USP!
Never Grumble
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I suppose having done navigating for a living it's sometimes difficult to appreciate how reasonably accomplished you might be. When I bought my boat even though a good number of years since I had skippered on my first trip out I thought nothing of leaving in the dark and arriving at the next place in the dark also.
Fast track sounds like they arrive like they are most of the way through operational sea training.
BTW the book you suggested gets mixed reviews.
capnsensible
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Got that with the fast trackers!
I've used that book with shed loads of candidates. Bet they're the ones who loved it! Definitive and written by the guy who organised and ran the exams for many years. No wonder some don't like it....... ?
I've used that book with shed loads of candidates. Bet they're the ones who loved it! Definitive and written by the guy who organised and ran the exams for many years. No wonder some don't like it....... ?
mattonthesea
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Re the training charts and local knowledge. On my YMO exam the examiner saw that I was preparing with local knowledge so he moved the goalposts; it assessed my ability to work on the fly. And then he told me only to do it if it was safe!
Paulfireblade
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My understanding is that the RYA allowed CC & DS to be run during COVID as Day Sailing rather than live aboard but all other courses were suspended for the time being.
presumably from 17rh May the restrictions will be sufficiently lifted to allow live aboard courses to resume but could be a back log of YM exams possibly.
Pretty sure you need VHF and First Aid certificates prior to attending YM.
presumably from 17rh May the restrictions will be sufficiently lifted to allow live aboard courses to resume but could be a back log of YM exams possibly.
Pretty sure you need VHF and First Aid certificates prior to attending YM.
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