jimi
Well-known member
Women Drivers ...
says it all really .. hazards tae themselves as well as shipping!
says it all really .. hazards tae themselves as well as shipping!
Yacht breaks up off Anvil Point
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jonathankent
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Re: Womenn Drivers ...
If the conditions were so... why were they that close inshore... surely a yacht of that should easily be able to deal with the conditions and go a little more offshore where it might be a little more forgiving???
Even if 'she' wasn't competent, thats not really an excuse for him... he should have taken more responsibility in the conditions, or not sailed at all - does he really know what he was doing??
Both as bad as each other
If the conditions were so... why were they that close inshore... surely a yacht of that should easily be able to deal with the conditions and go a little more offshore where it might be a little more forgiving???
Even if 'she' wasn't competent, thats not really an excuse for him... he should have taken more responsibility in the conditions, or not sailed at all - does he really know what he was doing??
Both as bad as each other
PhilipH
Member
Re: Womenn Drivers ...
Wonder why they weren't using that tireless crew member - the autohelm?
I would love to hear the conversation that starts - "I told you to ...."
Wonder why they weren't using that tireless crew member - the autohelm?
I would love to hear the conversation that starts - "I told you to ...."
rwoofer
Active member
Re: Womenn Drivers ...
Or maybe they thought it was on, but wasn't. I've sometimes engaged Auto and boat continues on Ok for about a minute and then luffs - only then I realise the autopilot has not actually been engaged.
Or maybe they thought it was on, but wasn't. I've sometimes engaged Auto and boat continues on Ok for about a minute and then luffs - only then I realise the autopilot has not actually been engaged.
Koeketiene
Well-known member
What a plonker!
Brand new 250K Benny Oceanis 473 - bought 2 weeks earlier.
Skipper's previous sailing experience to date....
wait for it...
5 days Comp Crew!!!
Thank God no-one was hurt; and with any luck it will keep the prat of the water for good!
Brand new 250K Benny Oceanis 473 - bought 2 weeks earlier.
Skipper's previous sailing experience to date....
wait for it...
5 days Comp Crew!!!
Thank God no-one was hurt; and with any luck it will keep the prat of the water for good!
jimi
Well-known member
Re: What a plonker!
Sure hope he's insured with a different insurer to me!
Sure hope he's insured with a different insurer to me!
starboard
Active member
I would have guessed a pot rope round the prop or rudder for things to go wrong that fast close inshore.......the film on sky filmed from the fast cat "Condor" looked pretty interesting, a good lesson in how to veer down on a casualty by the Swanage ILB...........a good job well done by Condor, RNLI and HMCG lee on Solent S61.
Paul.
Paul.
Benbow
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a good lesson in how to veer down on a casualty by the Swanage ILB...
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What was the other end attached to ?
a good lesson in how to veer down on a casualty by the Swanage ILB...
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What was the other end attached to ?
bigwow
Well-known member
Re: What a plonker!
He's on a very steep learning curve after his 1 week course, wonder what experience he told his insurance Co he had
He's on a very steep learning curve after his 1 week course, wonder what experience he told his insurance Co he had
Re: Womenn Drivers ...
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Or maybe they thought it was on, but wasn't. I've sometimes engaged Auto and boat continues on Ok for about a minute and then luffs - only then I realise the autopilot has not actually been engaged.
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If you refer to the feeble Raymarine Autohelm engage bleep then I know exactly what you mean. I almost pranged another boat in the marina after I thought I had engaged the auto pilot and my boat wandered off course.
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Or maybe they thought it was on, but wasn't. I've sometimes engaged Auto and boat continues on Ok for about a minute and then luffs - only then I realise the autopilot has not actually been engaged.
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If you refer to the feeble Raymarine Autohelm engage bleep then I know exactly what you mean. I almost pranged another boat in the marina after I thought I had engaged the auto pilot and my boat wandered off course.
Evadne
Active member
Re: What a plonker!
I wouldn't be too harsh on him, there but for the grace of God go us, well me to be more precise. The best way to learn is by making mistakes, its just that they're not usually quite as spectacularly bad.
I had a similarly typical "what else can go wrong" trip in my first season of boat ownership, and skipperdom, on about our fourth trip out (2nd crossing from Rye to Bologne). Fortunately east coast mud is more forgiving than the rocks of Anvil point, and we had more sea room. Mind you, my boat was (is) half the size and a tenth of the cost of his, but that probably had little bearing on the outcome.
I wouldn't be too harsh on him, there but for the grace of God go us, well me to be more precise. The best way to learn is by making mistakes, its just that they're not usually quite as spectacularly bad.
I had a similarly typical "what else can go wrong" trip in my first season of boat ownership, and skipperdom, on about our fourth trip out (2nd crossing from Rye to Bologne). Fortunately east coast mud is more forgiving than the rocks of Anvil point, and we had more sea room. Mind you, my boat was (is) half the size and a tenth of the cost of his, but that probably had little bearing on the outcome.
Sans Bateau
Well-known member
Re: What a plonker!
Hang on Dave, dont be too generous, they spent the night in Lulworth; not the place to be with any any S in the wind. The wind backed to SW 6 - 7 Sunday night/Monday morning. Didnt he listen to a forcast either?
In a 6 -7 the last place you want to be is inshore. Yes there is a 'safe' route inshore around St Albans, but not in a blow. He should have been 3 - 4 miles off shore. If he was heading for the Solent at 0800 he was about 2 hours after LW for Lulworth, he would of wanted the biggest 'lift' from the tide as possible to avoid an ebb at Hurst.
Hang on Dave, dont be too generous, they spent the night in Lulworth; not the place to be with any any S in the wind. The wind backed to SW 6 - 7 Sunday night/Monday morning. Didnt he listen to a forcast either?
In a 6 -7 the last place you want to be is inshore. Yes there is a 'safe' route inshore around St Albans, but not in a blow. He should have been 3 - 4 miles off shore. If he was heading for the Solent at 0800 he was about 2 hours after LW for Lulworth, he would of wanted the biggest 'lift' from the tide as possible to avoid an ebb at Hurst.
mtettmar
New member
Re: What a plonker!
It's certainly all quite hard to believe! I just hope there was some other contributing factor, such as gear failure, that we don't know about yet, rather than just a plain lack of common sense!
It's certainly all quite hard to believe! I just hope there was some other contributing factor, such as gear failure, that we don't know about yet, rather than just a plain lack of common sense!
bigwow
Well-known member
Re: What a plonker!
I learned to sail in a dinghy then mooved on to bigger and better boats, and it was quite a while before I had the confidence to be on my own with only non sailers aboard. I admit to running amuck a few times but it has always been on a rising tide and half expected, I would not do the same with a rocky outcome. He had more money than sense if you ask me
I learned to sail in a dinghy then mooved on to bigger and better boats, and it was quite a while before I had the confidence to be on my own with only non sailers aboard. I admit to running amuck a few times but it has always been on a rising tide and half expected, I would not do the same with a rocky outcome. He had more money than sense if you ask me
capt_courageous
New member
Re: Womenn Drivers ...
On autopilot in a marina ?????
On autopilot in a marina ?????
Bergman
New member
Re: Womenn Drivers ...
Yes thats right
Just heard the BBC say it was all down to a woman driver - so it must be true.
The monstrous regiment are quiet at the moment
Yes thats right
Just heard the BBC say it was all down to a woman driver - so it must be true.
The monstrous regiment are quiet at the moment
chuckaduck
Active member
Big brown thingy hit them they claim
Re: Womenn Drivers ...
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On autopilot in a marina ?????
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Not quite. Just outside single handling setting up fenders and warps. The auto pilot should have pointed me up the channel outside at a speed of 2 knots. When I looked up to check progress I was about 5 seconds away from making an expensive dent in the sides of a cat with tower-block like topsides.
There have been other occasions when I failed to notice the Autohelm's failure to engage auto mode. I wonder if the product engineers get out of the lab, for example when I quizzed a Raymarine engineer recently about how a C80 display resolves the discrepancy between a Radar and AIS contact he frowned and said "I don't think our lab simulator generates that situation". Doh!
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On autopilot in a marina ?????
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Not quite. Just outside single handling setting up fenders and warps. The auto pilot should have pointed me up the channel outside at a speed of 2 knots. When I looked up to check progress I was about 5 seconds away from making an expensive dent in the sides of a cat with tower-block like topsides.
There have been other occasions when I failed to notice the Autohelm's failure to engage auto mode. I wonder if the product engineers get out of the lab, for example when I quizzed a Raymarine engineer recently about how a C80 display resolves the discrepancy between a Radar and AIS contact he frowned and said "I don't think our lab simulator generates that situation". Doh!
jimi
Well-known member
Re: Womenn Drivers ...
Erm I did similar when I whacked a pile, learnt my lesson. My autopilot lever does'nt always stay down and I use a bit of bungee round the lever to keep it engaged.
Erm I did similar when I whacked a pile, learnt my lesson. My autopilot lever does'nt always stay down and I use a bit of bungee round the lever to keep it engaged.
powerskipper
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Re: Women Drivers ...
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