Sneds
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Like the 805!!
Friend had hull probs with a Sealine 260 (1993)
Friend had hull probs with a Sealine 260 (1993)
Wow, Bargain S34!!!!
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alt
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I'm going off-topic so it's the last i'll say ... Yes the Leader 805 looks like a good boat, with the KAD43. Seriously thinking of putting an offer down (Sea trial tomorrow). Hope it's as good as I hope it to be
halcyon
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Can the same be said for all Sealines? I was considering an S23 but read something about stress cracks around the transom area? Now considering a Jeanau (sp?) Leader 805
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I spent arond 5 days a month at the Sealine factory in the 1980's / 1990's, when we were supplying switch gear and charging systems. Thus got envolved, from Tom Murrant to the shop floor in most aspects of design, production and service. During this time there was never a big problem with Sealine hulls in general, when you are building upto 45 boats a month, the odd problem must exist, but not in general during this period. The other factor in this period was, if you know Tom, Frank or Harry, you did not make bad products, your life was not worth it.
After Tom sold the firm I have had less envolvement on a day to day basis so will not comment. But as a current supplier, quality and relaibility is still a major factor, and still a major pain in the butt.
I would treat each boat on it's merrits, have a survay, then make a choice.
Brian
Can the same be said for all Sealines? I was considering an S23 but read something about stress cracks around the transom area? Now considering a Jeanau (sp?) Leader 805
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I spent arond 5 days a month at the Sealine factory in the 1980's / 1990's, when we were supplying switch gear and charging systems. Thus got envolved, from Tom Murrant to the shop floor in most aspects of design, production and service. During this time there was never a big problem with Sealine hulls in general, when you are building upto 45 boats a month, the odd problem must exist, but not in general during this period. The other factor in this period was, if you know Tom, Frank or Harry, you did not make bad products, your life was not worth it.
After Tom sold the firm I have had less envolvement on a day to day basis so will not comment. But as a current supplier, quality and relaibility is still a major factor, and still a major pain in the butt.
I would treat each boat on it's merrits, have a survay, then make a choice.
Brian
Coupe
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I would treat each boat on it's merrits, have a survay, then make a choice.
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I would agree with statement.
We owned two Sealines.
S28 - no problems to report and she subsequently passed at least one survey with flying colours.
C39 - she failed the survey when we were selling her due to crack along a chine on the port side. Subsequently repaired to new owners satisfaction.
I would treat each boat on it's merrits, have a survay, then make a choice.
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I would agree with statement.
We owned two Sealines.
S28 - no problems to report and she subsequently passed at least one survey with flying colours.
C39 - she failed the survey when we were selling her due to crack along a chine on the port side. Subsequently repaired to new owners satisfaction.
wakeup
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Go for the leader 805, much better hull, you won't be disappointed..
I spent ages checking out both boats, went for the 805 after exteended sea trial, much more room as well.
I spent ages checking out both boats, went for the 805 after exteended sea trial, much more room as well.
alt
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wakeup - Have you got an 805, or did you? If so, mind me PM'ing you and wrecking your head? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
SonVida - Was it a big job to repair the crack along the chine?
SonVida - Was it a big job to repair the crack along the chine?
gimmesunshine
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stress cracking can occur in any make, sunseekers have been prone in the past and even report of recent windy builds,
as someone else said, take each one on its merit
as someone else said, take each one on its merit
oldgit
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Depends if your stress is a surface blemish in the gel coat which most boats with any proper sustained use over a long period will have due to prob coming alongside a bit heavy,around cleats and stantions and stuff or mebbe even around bits that stick up in the air such as radar arches etc.
Cracks along chines,adjacent to ribs and other serious faults in nearly new boats due to the hull flexing while underway and requiring any sort of major structural remedy is a different matter.
The fashion to build boats lighter and lighter and then claiming that the strength of new materials/laying up methods will compensate has yet to be proved.
The track record so far perhaps is not encouraging ?
A recent inspection in the bilges of a fast sports boat bought by a friend and built by a british boatbuilder revealed an obvious delamination of the hull from a rib/stringer joint.
Nobody seemed too concerned,but had it been any boat that I was considering purchasing,most probably at a fraction of the cost of this boat,would have walked away.
Cracks along chines,adjacent to ribs and other serious faults in nearly new boats due to the hull flexing while underway and requiring any sort of major structural remedy is a different matter.
The fashion to build boats lighter and lighter and then claiming that the strength of new materials/laying up methods will compensate has yet to be proved.
The track record so far perhaps is not encouraging ?
A recent inspection in the bilges of a fast sports boat bought by a friend and built by a british boatbuilder revealed an obvious delamination of the hull from a rib/stringer joint.
Nobody seemed too concerned,but had it been any boat that I was considering purchasing,most probably at a fraction of the cost of this boat,would have walked away.
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SC38 is 400kg HEAVIER than the previous S38. That can't be all roof thingy.
MedDreamer
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Going up there this morning, 198 miles! Will have a look, bit over our budget but looks nice...
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Did you find out anything further about this boat?
Going up there this morning, 198 miles! Will have a look, bit over our budget but looks nice...
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Did you find out anything further about this boat?
MedDreamer
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I can't think of any positive reason why Essex would look to sell one of their own stock boats at such a discounted price. What's the point of going so far under the market price? If they had gone in at £15K more it would still have attracted attention.
There is no explaination on their website as to the reason for the boat being so cheap and the pics suggest its in pretty good nick (superficially at least).
Given recent events with Peters and Deva I can't help but suspect a bit of desperation to "shift something" to generate cash. Obviously they wouldn't want to devalue the brands they represent, Fairline and Doral in particular, so choosing a popular model from another brand makes sense.
I know nothing about EBY and hear a lot of good things about them on here but I have always wondered about how they have financed their business model. It may be my suspicious nature but if I was dealing with them I would want a few reassurances about the security of my money.
There is no explaination on their website as to the reason for the boat being so cheap and the pics suggest its in pretty good nick (superficially at least).
Given recent events with Peters and Deva I can't help but suspect a bit of desperation to "shift something" to generate cash. Obviously they wouldn't want to devalue the brands they represent, Fairline and Doral in particular, so choosing a popular model from another brand makes sense.
I know nothing about EBY and hear a lot of good things about them on here but I have always wondered about how they have financed their business model. It may be my suspicious nature but if I was dealing with them I would want a few reassurances about the security of my money.
Gludy
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I recently enquired of EBY about a Sealine I that I might trade in against Drumbeat - basically they were not interested at buying Sealines in at any price. I got the impression the bottom had dropped out of the market for Sealines. They told me that my current boat - the Squadron was a far easier boat to sell than any sealine at any bargain price - in the end I did sell Drumbeat straight away and had lots of others in the buying pipeline so they were right about it being saleable.
I have a lot of respect for EBY as they put their money where their mouth is and they sell boats - some 600 per year rather than stack them in the yard year after year.
I have a lot of respect for EBY as they put their money where their mouth is and they sell boats - some 600 per year rather than stack them in the yard year after year.
MedDreamer
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I assume it's a p/x against a new Fairline/Doral etc & that they just want to get their cash out of the deal but really don't understand why they have gone so cheap. Even if Sealines are more difficult to move I don't believe that the price differential is that great. At least one Sealine dealer seems to be growing their business nicely on the back of the brand.
Nautorius
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I think you are right,
It seems all non core brands own stock (especially Sealines) look priced to sell. Probably keeping cash flow going. Once upon a time they could sell Sealine 34's and S28's before they got to the yard. The last few have all stuck including the S38, C39 and S42 that they have.
Seems they are just clearing through and want rid of some stock now...which seems sensible to me!
Cheers
Paul /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
It seems all non core brands own stock (especially Sealines) look priced to sell. Probably keeping cash flow going. Once upon a time they could sell Sealine 34's and S28's before they got to the yard. The last few have all stuck including the S38, C39 and S42 that they have.
Seems they are just clearing through and want rid of some stock now...which seems sensible to me!
Cheers
Paul /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Whitelighter
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C39's and S42's are hardly the easiest boats to sell at the best of times. Suprised about the S34 though, they seem pretty good news at the best of times, though I think the fact that they have so many warranty issues with SL has meant EBY just can't be doinf with the hassle of them now.
I wonder if this S34 is being sold as seen with no implied warranty?
I wonder if this S34 is being sold as seen with no implied warranty?
oldgit
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Prob the granite worktops...........
petem
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stress cracking can occur in any make, sunseekers have been prone in the past and even report of recent windy builds,
as someone else said, take each one on its merit
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OK find me a single post on here that describes a Fairline with Stress Cracks (or Osmosis for that matter).
Pete
stress cracking can occur in any make, sunseekers have been prone in the past and even report of recent windy builds,
as someone else said, take each one on its merit
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OK find me a single post on here that describes a Fairline with Stress Cracks (or Osmosis for that matter).
Pete
petem
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Did anyone find out if this boat was genuine? Anyone snapped her up yet?
Pete
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I only know of one Targa 40 that was a bit of a disaster, and had to be taken back by Fairline. It's buried somewhere in the forums.
Similarly, I'm not aware of any Princesses that have suffered with abnormal cracks anywhere.
Could it be that some Sealine and Sunseeker owners don't know how to slow down? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
dv.
Similarly, I'm not aware of any Princesses that have suffered with abnormal cracks anywhere.
Could it be that some Sealine and Sunseeker owners don't know how to slow down? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
dv.
ssc
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just noticed the boat is under offer - looks like previously a Peters stock boat at about £85000