Which Boat

I have the sloop rigged Rasmus and its a simpler rig and easy to handle. I can pull up the main and only use a winch to nip up the last bit so i can't see the ketch adding much but clutter and complication. Also the helm on mine is via a binnacle in the middle of the cockpit rather than from a steering position at the chart table. Its much better for access to the main and sheets and people can sit comfortable forward of you

There were almost 700 Rasmus built and most survive in very varied conditions but I still
agree with your principal to find a boat in good condition first rather than a specific model.

I did the same but somehow ended up with my boat!
 
pvb said:
Seriously? And Ludd doesn't even know the name of the boat; it's Rasmus. As a long-time HR owner, I'm a great fan of many of their boats, but the Rasmus is now almost 50 years old, and will feel old and involve a lot of effort to sail satisfactorily, not to mention endless maintenance. You can do much better.
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As i said condition is everything and I don't disagree with your comments. At the time I bought mine 8 years ago there was much greater differential between boats than there is now so that budget buys an aweful lot more than it used to.

Ref sailing performance, when I go racing I do it on other peoples boats. When i'm cruising i like the security of a centre cockpit, the quality of finish and use the motor when I choose.

I bought it based on needing to support a boat on a limited budget using my own skill and effort.

I am not of fan of standing up getting wet all day and for what I use it for its a great boat. That doesn't mean it has the same appeal to everyone but it has a loyal following for a reason in certain circles (like Ludd!)
 
jonjo5 said:
No aft cockpit walkthrough = big tick. They just don't work under 40 feet and the excellent crew communication diagram on the Sun Fizz site demonstrates the benefit.
300l liters of water = decent.
Deep keel to fin crossover hull vintage = sensible compromise shape not that different from an HR/Malo of today.
Useful bicycle and downwind sail storage locker aft of the cockpit, why do they call it an aft cabin?
7 tons = just enough.

300sq ft mainsail and a much larger geneoa area = oh dear showing its age. A new full batten main with enlarged roach and a high clew 120% genoa couple with some code xyz down wind sail on a furler might modernize the sail plan but this sentence costs £6k.
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Just to clear up something which might lead to a bit of confusion. The Gin Fizz is a Jeanneau boat designed by Michel Joubert (who died a couple of weeks ago) and was 11m40. It was replaced by the Sun Fizz designed by Philippe Briand which was 11m75 which in turn was replaced by the Sun Legende 41 designed by Doug Petersen (which Robin owned).

In a recent French article it was claimed that the Sun Fizz made a better long distance cruising boat because the hull form better supports load carrying ( although the authors eventually chose the Feeling 416).

Joubert used to say that people criticized the Gin Fizz for being under-powered but his argument was that, when you go long distance cruising you don't want to be constantly reefing and unreefing and that of the 600 produced, people had sailed all over the world with them.

PS. From 1985 onwards the Sun Fizz hull was reinforced with Kevlar, as were the Sun Legende hulls.
 
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