CalmSkipper
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...and I know some consider it bad luck, but I've decided I'm going to. What I'm not sure of is exactly what to do - is there a register to check against?
What do you have to do to rename a boat
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robavery
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LadyInBed
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Make a new name plate and stick it over the old one!
That's the easy bit, anyone who has records - insurance, radio licence and if it is registered, they must be informed and their hoops jumped through.
The only problem that I see, and I have never seen a satisfactory answer, is that the bill of sale will not then reflect the boats name. How much that might affect any official scrutiny has yet to be seen.
That's the easy bit, anyone who has records - insurance, radio licence and if it is registered, they must be informed and their hoops jumped through.
The only problem that I see, and I have never seen a satisfactory answer, is that the bill of sale will not then reflect the boats name. How much that might affect any official scrutiny has yet to be seen.
CalmSkipper
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As I understand it at the moment, in this case
1. the insurance will be taken out by me as new owner and I shall submit the new name
2. The boat is registered and MCA coded so I shall inform them
3. Not sure about radio license, I need to find out
Is there anywhere I need to check to see if the new boat name already exists or am I free to call it whatever I wish, even if someone has already used that name for their boat?
1. the insurance will be taken out by me as new owner and I shall submit the new name
2. The boat is registered and MCA coded so I shall inform them
3. Not sure about radio license, I need to find out
Is there anywhere I need to check to see if the new boat name already exists or am I free to call it whatever I wish, even if someone has already used that name for their boat?
VicS
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If it is only registered on the SSr then no problem with the name from there.
The Radio licence is not transferable to a new owner so you will have to apply for a new one. You can do it free on the Ofcom website. If you want to retain the old callsign, which you should do, then it might be easier to get the new licence in the old name and the do a "change of name" later. If the old licence has lapsed and been dead for long you will find that the on line system will not recognise the callsign so you will then have to do it by post and it will cost you £20.
The Radio licence is not transferable to a new owner so you will have to apply for a new one. You can do it free on the Ofcom website. If you want to retain the old callsign, which you should do, then it might be easier to get the new licence in the old name and the do a "change of name" later. If the old licence has lapsed and been dead for long you will find that the on line system will not recognise the callsign so you will then have to do it by post and it will cost you £20.
jema
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tee hee, if you ask our children they will tell the whole mad saga - old name must never meet the new name, you you have to summon up all 4 wind gods, by name, then neptune, pour champagne & throw vital victuals in the sea....( ginger bisciuts) for each of the gods on the maiden voyage in her new name, weirdly enough we launched her in a force 7- 8, immediatley after the ceremony conducted by a 10 year old the wind dropped to a 4-5 -
we actually took it seriously as i'm superstitious - but didnt want the previous owners bad luck laden name ( he'd been bankrupt !!) see http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/rename.htm....
we actually took it seriously as i'm superstitious - but didnt want the previous owners bad luck laden name ( he'd been bankrupt !!) see http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/rename.htm....
tangomoon
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You don't need permission. Just change the name and tell your insurance company - they like to know these things for some reason.
Malcb
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If you've got children , or grandchildren, the make a big thing of it and involve them, especially if they have had any part in choosing the name.
Otherwise, just change it and make sure that you sort out any paperwork like SSr and Radio Licence afterwards.
Do we all really think that commercial companies, when buying a second hand ship, go through all the rigmarole with Neptune et al.
Having said that, maybe, just maybe they should /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Otherwise, just change it and make sure that you sort out any paperwork like SSr and Radio Licence afterwards.
Do we all really think that commercial companies, when buying a second hand ship, go through all the rigmarole with Neptune et al.
Having said that, maybe, just maybe they should /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
VicS
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[ QUOTE ]
Do we all really think that commercial companies, when buying a second hand ship, go through all the rigmarole with Neptune et al
[/ QUOTE ] Nor I suspect did the Canadian Navy when they tried to sail the renamed sub that they had bought from the RN. It did not get very far as I recall. Now if they had done the renaming properly things may well have been different.
Also there is ship parked on Branscombe beach at present that was renamed, probably without observing the correct "rigmarole with Neptune" or his brother Al.
Do we all really think that commercial companies, when buying a second hand ship, go through all the rigmarole with Neptune et al
[/ QUOTE ] Nor I suspect did the Canadian Navy when they tried to sail the renamed sub that they had bought from the RN. It did not get very far as I recall. Now if they had done the renaming properly things may well have been different.
Also there is ship parked on Branscombe beach at present that was renamed, probably without observing the correct "rigmarole with Neptune" or his brother Al.
LadyInBed
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Ok, that's the position I was in. Changed boat and didn't like the name. When you apply for a ships radio licence there is a box to enter old call sign and if you apply for SSR there is a box for old SSR number.
Easy as that.
The hardest bit is polishing the hull after removing the old name.
Easy as that.
The hardest bit is polishing the hull after removing the old name.
CodStewart
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I've changed the name of my boat, too.
CalmSkipper
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I was trying to avoid the 'good luck/bad luck' thing in this thread but hell, I know when I'm beaten!!
I ran a poll in December:
67% of 133 respondents had renamed their boat and only 10% of those felt it had brought them bad luck.
Personally I wouldn't describe myself as supersticious (walking under a ladder does mathematically increase your chances of being struck on the head by a falling object in my opinion!) but like many I guess, the renaming ceremony does offer a little bit of insurance just in case we were wrong after all!
I ran a poll in December:
67% of 133 respondents had renamed their boat and only 10% of those felt it had brought them bad luck.
Personally I wouldn't describe myself as supersticious (walking under a ladder does mathematically increase your chances of being struck on the head by a falling object in my opinion!) but like many I guess, the renaming ceremony does offer a little bit of insurance just in case we were wrong after all!
Cruiser2B
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see also: http://www.boatus.com/goodoldboat/naming.asp
Superstitious or not, this is just a fun thing to do, and cheap insurance against offending the fates.
Superstitious or not, this is just a fun thing to do, and cheap insurance against offending the fates.
brianrunyard
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I've changed the name of two boats and don't believe I suffered bad luck from it.
It always amazes me that grown men, who pretend that they're not superstitious and that nothing frightens them, suddenly become quivering wrecks and turn to Black Magic (not the chocolates) when they change the name of a boat.
It always amazes me that grown men, who pretend that they're not superstitious and that nothing frightens them, suddenly become quivering wrecks and turn to Black Magic (not the chocolates) when they change the name of a boat.
Mike Friend
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1. Paint over the old one
2. Decide on a new one
3. Paint on the new one
4. Ignore all the other nonsense!
Nothing else matters the sail number is the important identifier. Check with your insurance company, but you don't name a car or a house eh? So why bother about a boat name.
2. Decide on a new one
3. Paint on the new one
4. Ignore all the other nonsense!
Nothing else matters the sail number is the important identifier. Check with your insurance company, but you don't name a car or a house eh? So why bother about a boat name.
dombuckley
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STATUE
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I thought we would have a pontoon party (any excuse !)
Took champagne in garden shed and was aware that despite the potention breaking of it over the bow roller housed bruce anchor it probably wouldn't break.
So, back now in the garden shed, I took a tile cutter stylus to the champagne bottle, na' one cut would clearly not be enough, did a second - BANG .... I had no goggles on and was lucky.
Any how did it again with a second bottle - this now on board in the cabin.
Being clever and knowing that the marina manager would not be best pleased with glass flying about the pontoon following the 'ceremony' I decided to swathe the bottle in masking tape.
But first to make those weakening cuts again - BANG (this time inside the boat).
Anyhow the third bottle (prossecco this time !) was handed to the children of one of the guests who poured it over the bow !!
Broke out a new 'ships log' and got everyone to sign as witness to the renaming.
Make the most of it and have fun (without the dangers !)
Oh, yeh, you got to do all those semi official bits.
Had a boat once called Lazzerrella but didn't change the name - it sank !
Good luck
Took champagne in garden shed and was aware that despite the potention breaking of it over the bow roller housed bruce anchor it probably wouldn't break.
So, back now in the garden shed, I took a tile cutter stylus to the champagne bottle, na' one cut would clearly not be enough, did a second - BANG .... I had no goggles on and was lucky.
Any how did it again with a second bottle - this now on board in the cabin.
Being clever and knowing that the marina manager would not be best pleased with glass flying about the pontoon following the 'ceremony' I decided to swathe the bottle in masking tape.
But first to make those weakening cuts again - BANG (this time inside the boat).
Anyhow the third bottle (prossecco this time !) was handed to the children of one of the guests who poured it over the bow !!
Broke out a new 'ships log' and got everyone to sign as witness to the renaming.
Make the most of it and have fun (without the dangers !)
Oh, yeh, you got to do all those semi official bits.
Had a boat once called Lazzerrella but didn't change the name - it sank !
Good luck
Quandary
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Reviving a ten year old thread might be justified if there was anything new to add, but to do it just to repeat what was said before?????
Not the most impressive way to make an arrival.
Not the most impressive way to make an arrival.
macd
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1. This must come as worrying news to most of the yachts I see, which have no sail numbers -- to say nothing of MOBO owners.
2. You might not, but someone else most assuredly does.
Please feel under no obligation to respond until 2025.
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EdWingfield
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Phone Coastguard and tell 'em. They will update your file on their database (CG66)
Let Insurance know.
I haven't done anything else (apart from appeasing Neptune) and survived 4 boardings over recent years.
A couple of lads on a delivery trip of their 'new' boat arrived. They said the boat was to be re-named. I said with all due drama, You cannot do that! King Neptune will bite your arse! We agreed that a ceremony was required, words must be spoken by a dignitary, and spirit must be spilled onto the foredeck for Neptune.
I was elected dignitary. 'I name this ship etc.'
I was invited to an Irish fry-up breakfast next morning. Very nice.
Let Insurance know.
I haven't done anything else (apart from appeasing Neptune) and survived 4 boardings over recent years.
A couple of lads on a delivery trip of their 'new' boat arrived. They said the boat was to be re-named. I said with all due drama, You cannot do that! King Neptune will bite your arse! We agreed that a ceremony was required, words must be spoken by a dignitary, and spirit must be spilled onto the foredeck for Neptune.
I was elected dignitary. 'I name this ship etc.'
I was invited to an Irish fry-up breakfast next morning. Very nice.
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