Weems & Plath Endurance 125 clock not working

[Skylark]

I have a Weems & Plath Endurance 125 clock, bought in 2016. It has stopped working. The battery terminals are clean and dry and a new battery does not make it restart.

Anyone experienced somethign similar? Is a repair possible and/or replacement mechanism available? DIY job? I can't find a W&P UK contact.

Many thanks for any help and advice.

 

[Poignard]

It is usually easy to replace a quartz movement and they are not expensive.

A firm like this might be able to help you select the right one

Our Full Range of Quartz Clock Replacement Movements - Buy Clock Spare Parts Online

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Didn't endure for long did it.

 

[Skylark]

Very help @Poignard thank you.

Very true @Fr J Hackett quite disappointed with it, to be honest.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

I always associated Weems and Plath with high quality mechanical movements, I would have been disappointed to have bought one to find it had a cheap Chinese quartz movement.

 

[Graham376]

I've changed a couple of quartz movements. When buying (lots on ebay) make sure the centre retaining thread/spindle is the same length. Original hands may not fit so best to buy one complete with hands. quartz clock movements for sale | eBay

 

[Skylark]

I always associated Weems and Plath with high quality mechanical movements, I would have been disappointed to have bought one to find it had a cheap Chinese quartz movement.

Agree with you. Outwardly, it looks very nice alongside its barometer brother. I bought the chrome version as it matches the contemporary and welcoming feel within the cabin of my lovely Beneteau

I don't know where the mechanism was made but wouldn't be surprised to find that it's Chinese.

Thanks, @Graham376 that's helpful.

The clock is still on the boat but I'll bring it home after my next visit, mid October.

My visit there last week was a bit frustrating..........windex reference arms at top of mast have turned through 90 degrees, don't know why but suspect birds.......a trip to the top of the mast now required. Wireless handheld vhf battery has finally died, refuses to take charge. I've just ordered a new battery so it's next on my jobs list. Clock also stopped. Boats are a pain in the ass, there's always something

 

[Praxinoscope]

As the movement is probably the standard type used in these clocks, It's almost invariably the 'clock
crystal' (32.7khz) that has failed, if you are handy with a small soldering iron it's quite easy to replace and they only cost less than about £0.50 each.
Otherwise Poinards list of movement supplies is a good option.

 

[billyfish]

I've got the same set, bit misleading to say 'garenteed 'for life , it's just the finnish on the case

 

[Skylark]

As the movement is probably the standard type used in these clocks, It's almost invariably the 'clock
crystal' (32.7khz) that has failed, if you are handy with a small soldering iron it's quite easy to replace and they only cost less than about £0.50 each.
Otherwise Poinards list of movement supplies is a good option.

Thanks for the comments.

As I wrote above, the clock is currently on the boat but I’ll have it at home by mid October. I wouldn’t say that I’m handy with a soldering iron but for the fun of it, I’ll have a go.

Any tips?

 

[penberth3]

I always associated Weems and Plath with high quality mechanical movements, I would have been disappointed to have bought one to find it had a cheap Chinese quartz movement.

Welcome to the 21st Century. The old names mean nothing, they're all "brands" now.

 

[Praxinoscope]

Thanks for the comments.

As I wrote above, the clock is currently on the boat but I’ll have it at home by mid October. I wouldn’t say that I’m handy with a soldering iron but for the fun of it, I’ll have a go.

Any tips?

The last time I changed the 'clock' on one of my boat clocks, it was easier to cut the legs and solder the replacement to the legs. It's worth putting a heatsink between where you are soldering and the clock unit, a pair of tweezers work well for this.
For ref' see the image for what these crystal look like and the size of them.

 

[Skylark]

I always associated Weems and Plath with high quality mechanical movements, I would have been disappointed to have bought one to find it had a cheap Chinese quartz movement.

I now have the clock back at home and can confirm that paying a high price buys a Weems and Plath logo on a Chinese made plastic clock with Chinese made movement. The movement is held in place with incredibly strong double sided sticky tape.

I’ve sent the dimensions to the place suggested by Mr @Poignard earlier. Hopefully, they’ll be able to find a replacement for me.

 

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I now have the clock back at home and can confirm that paying a high price buys a Weems and Plath logo on a Chinese made plastic clock with Chinese made movement. The movement is held in place with incredibly strong double sided sticky tape.

I’ve sent the dimensions to the place suggested by Mr @Poignard earlier. Hopefully, they’ll be able to find a replacement for me.

Such a shame that quality is unusual these days with cheap rubbish being omnipresent. About fifteen years ago I bought a 1972 vintage Schatz Royal Mariner mechanical clock. It's been a delight to look at, is remarkably accurate, has an engaging "Eight Bells" function if one is feeling nautical and in that time has required only two visits to the horologist for a service. In fact the second service is happening now and being undertaken by a horologist on Bute, Rothesay. Alongside the clock is its sister matching barometer. Old school is often lovely.

 

[Skylark]

I’m struggling to find a replacement mechanism. The shop suggested by @Poignard can’t help. I’ve sent a few emails based upon a Google search, so far one has replied “I don’t really want to comment…….” then he went on to say “attached in a nasty way, all very Heath Robinson”

Let everyone be aware that expensive Weems and Plath Endurance 125 boat clocks have cheap and nasty, Chinese made innards.

 

[Skylark]

Such a shame that quality is unusual these days with cheap rubbish being omnipresent. About fifteen years ago I bought a 1972 vintage Schatz Royal Mariner mechanical clock. It's been a delight to look at, is remarkably accurate, has an engaging "Eight Bells" function if one is feeling nautical and in that time has required only two visits to the horologist for a service. In fact the second service is happening now and being undertaken by a horologist on Bute, Rothesay. Alongside the clock is its sister matching barometer. Old school is often lovely.

As there isn’t an “envy” icon, for the avoidance of doubt, I’m envious.

 

[Poignard]

I’m struggling to find a replacement mechanism. The shop suggested by @Poignard can’t help. I’ve sent a few emails based upon a Google search, so far one has replied “I don’t really want to comment…….” then he went on to say “attached in a nasty way, all very Heath Robinson”

Let everyone be aware that expensive Weems and Plath Endurance 125 boat clocks have cheap and nasty, Chinese made innards.

Sorry that didn't help.

You could try Meadows & Passmore Ltd.

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[duncan99210]

I put a new mechanism into a (I think) Plastimo clock that had died of neglect during the lockdown. I removed the mechanism from the clock face, measured the diameter of the various spindles and the length and diameter of threaded outer spindle. I then searched on Amazon using those measurements. Long story short, I found a new movement that fitted the clock face and was about the same size as the original. I couldn’t reuse the original hands but the movement came with a selection of hands, one of which more or less matched the style of the old ones, albeit too long. Work with some scissors sorted that and the clock is now functional again. I paid about £5 for the movement.

 

[Thistle]

Have you tried www.weems-plath.com ?

 

[Hoolie]

I have replaced the movement in our Kelvin Hughes clock - ISTR it was originally German. As suggested, measure up and make sure the central mounting ring will fit. You also usually have a choice between continuous movement of the second hand and one that jumps once a second.