water inside the bell housing

[chriswilliams29]

i have a volvo 200 diesel which is coupled to a 280 leg.
i took the starter motor off as it playing up and to my horror water poured out .sea water.
is this the bellows leaking or something more sinister, help

 

[hlb]

Ah, so water now in bell housing. Do as I said in other post. You can do it by moving engine forwards. Strip bell housing and replace bearings, probably clutch type plate as well. We did all this years ago on the quay in Strangford Lock after nearly sinking. Dont wait for that!! I'll see if I can find the thread, it's some time ago.

Hears the begining of it. Should keep you entertained. Enter "Strangford" into Search for the rest of the epic. Sleep well./forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Now children if your all sitting comfortable, then I’ll begin.
We kept our last boat. A Princess 33. In Pwllheli in North Wales.
Now Wales is great apart from the Welsh but theres no where to go to except Portmadock which is only about seven miles round the corner. So for any visits for more than a couple of days. Ireland is the next easiest option.

Now every year we plan (Well I do.) an extended world cruise, which lasts about three or four weeks.
This one was planned for a far away place called Scotland, but taking the scenic route via Ireland.

So bright and early, about eleven o’clock one summers morning. Of’s we sets for Wicklow, it’s about 65 miles from Pwlleli and the course takes you through the Bardsey sound. Bardsey is a small Island about a mile off the coast and the sea between has a fearsome reputation. But anyway we sploshes through that and on to Wicklow, a place we’ve been to many times before so nowt more to be said about that! Next stop was either Dun Laoghaire or Howth, cant remember now but that’s Dublin for Colin and other thickies.
The next stop was Carlingford Lock. It was here that the weather turned distinctly lumpy, so we’re
hold up for three day in a not to pleasant spot. Now on the fourth day, her indoors who hates sea unless its been plastered down dead flat. Announces that its time to go. Well the weather didn’t look any better at all in my eyes, But on the other hand, if wife says its ok, then it must be!

So offs we churns to Strangford. Now I’d put my Princess 35 into any sort of sea and with maybe a bit of reduction on the throttles or even wide open if sea is behind, but I think that with the earlier 33.
Princess were still juggling the figures and hadn’t quite got there yet.

Now the book says. Don’t attempt to go into Strangford unless tide coming in. Cos first it goes out at seven Knots and then it sort of piles up in a big heap at the river entrance. Anyway we must have arrived five minutes too soon cos it was all ten foot lumps every where.

Anyway we makes it to the entrance to the lock and the weather improved and then the lovely people in Strangford finds us a buoy to park up to. Then its off to the Lobster Pot for Lobster thermidore. Which was fantastic. Then the pub across the road, just to round the day off.

So its back to the boat in the trusty dinghy and slightly pissed about midnight, and off to sleep.

I was woken up about an hour latter by the engine ignition buzzers, which for some reason had decided to go off.

Anyway in my drunken, tired state, I thought I’d just shut the buggers up by turning off the master switch and deal with the problem in the morning.

All I had on was a tee shirt and nothing else, but what the hell!

Now the switches are located by the engines out the back door and its pitch black.
So I lifts the engine cover and feels down. I’ve only got to about half way down the engines when my hand goes all wet!

It was about this time when I wakes up and becomes cold sober. And a bit deathly white as well!

So I’ yelling at th-wife to get up and shouting down the radio at the same time.
No answer from radio but th-wifes come to a bit. Chucks wife in dinghy and tells her to go and find help.
Then has a brain wave. Switch bilge pump on. Ah but that’s no good cos some pilock has put it on back to front and its blowing instead of sucking.

End of part one.


Haydn

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[EME]

OI !

You're spoiling for trouble again aren't you ...

The Welsh are wonderful people.

Do you apppreciate if Wales was flattened it would be bigger than England..??

Yer Dad should have named you Spalding /forums/images/icons/wink.gif


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[hlb]

Re: OI !

Just go read chapters two three and maybe more.
It's all part of the fun of boating./forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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[oldgit]

Surely bellows leaking would result in water in bilge.Is there a an oily high tide mark somewhere.
How about water leaking from somewhere above?
Do you have auto bilge pump.Water would need to be pretty deep to cover starter motor.
Had to replace starter motor on my recent boat worked two or three times then nothing.The internals of the starter were virtually non existant,just corroded gungy mess.Had been under water or full of water at some time.Other starter unit on second engine was perfect.
Has boat been afloat or standing ashore .

And here is the weekend weather..

 

[BrendanS]

My thoughts exactly. It's a deduction process. Need more info.

 

[BarryH]

The bellows on the 280 clamp directly onto the back of the bellhousing. If you have a good joint between the b/housing and the block it will hold a bit of water. If the bellows have leaked then water in the B/housing will be the least of your troubles. Water will also have entered into the top housing of the drive and will have got down into the lower gearcasing. The oil pump is down on the propsahft behind the gears and will have pumped it round the drive. So that'll have to come off as well and be inspected!

 

[coliholic]

Re: OI !

All in favour of flattening Wales so that Steve can practice his snooker vote here.

 

[BrendanS]

That's why I love this forum, intermittently. There are people who post things you can actually learn from!

 

[BarryH]

I aim to please. Don't want to be the bringer of bad news tho! Altho water anywhere near a volvo is bad news, it means its going to let you down at the most inopatune moment.

 

[hlb]

Now have you all read the rest of the thread I put up. I know most have from yoncs ago. But the more newbies. It was written with humour. But still very true.

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[Col]

See my pics below, to see end result of water getting into bellhousing.
If You want the gory details, read the thread about it Cols Picture Album

 

[Col]

By the way, sort it BEFORE it goes bang,
Bellhousing (bare) £740
Shaft for bell housing £330
Drive plate £ 300
Bearing& seals £80
Bellows £50
Input shaft with U/J's £290
Volvo starter £700

These are the approx prices as I recall VAT

If these are AQ 41's -Starter is Valeo (Pt no:184202) about £200 from your local autofactors (yes it is the marine version with earth return) but its got black paint, so by my reconning, that's £500 for the green paint from Volvo. Not bad eh??

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[rich]

The bell housing also has 2 bearings and 2seals before the bellows,not many peps know that. least of all V###O MECANICS.

rich )

 

[longjohnsilver]

Re: OI !

Hey, there's nowt wrong with Spalding, bought my current boat from a chap who lived there!

 

[ChrisP]

Re: OI !

Wales flattened... Now there's a thought.

What do you mean the sea gull in front's walking !!!

 

[BarryH]

Hmm, yep, know all about those. I got mine from the local bearing and seal place, mercury bearings and seals, I think its called. Got the lot for £20. Same as the volvo ones but your not paying for the volvo box! The shaft in there has the same size splines as a range rover rear halfshaft. Takes about an hour on the lathe to knock one up. The lower pinion gears in the gearcase are the same as skoda Estelle ones. The best tip tho is to change the "Zerk" greaser fitting on the b/housing for a normal grease nipple. You can get far more lube in there under greater pressure.

 

[EME]

Revenge ..

...will be mine...

Finsished 4 chapters , onto chosing a boat now !!!


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[boatone]

Re: Revenge ..

yeah, yeah, yeah,.........onto buying a boat now.......

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[EME]

Re: Revenge ..

I said CHOOSING not BUYING.

My name is Steve I have a licence to BORE


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