Washing up liquid and boats

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In an attempt to keep up with the cleanest boat in the marina which just so happens to moor next to us I sought some advice from the owner.

"Washing up liquid to wash down with and Jiff and then boat polish to get rid of the grimey brown marks on the gelcoat" was the reply.

I did try the washing up liquid bit last weekend and the boat came up a treat but I now worry that my pride and joy may disolve by next weekend......

Is this ok for the boat or should I refrain from using this stuff?

Also on the subject of cleaning whats best to remove exhaust from the dinghy and stern?

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GW used some stuff on mine on Sunday, its was great the only thing is he stopped half way through, but he did do the bathing platform Thanks Graham.... The stuff was great cant remember but it clead up well If only we had a camera, he was knee deep in black smelly mud after we rolled out of the PUB the kids fell about laughing as did the SWMBOS, I was in tears, we ended up getting covered but fun was had by all,

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Washing up ;iquid won,t harm the boat but will kill fish,Jiff will kill your gelcoat and the fish.
ther,s a post on pbo forum on the exhaust,
boat polish ok

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Whilst I may not be the greenest bod on the planet you have put me off using such stuff and I wonder how fish and plant freindly are the cleaners we tend to use?

I am a bit worried now....

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You should use wax to protect the boat, particularly from UV damage. Washing up liquid will remove any wax that there is on the boat.

One Fairline dealer I know used Jif to get the boats shining before they were handed over (but don't tell anyone I told you).

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So how come it's common practice to pump raw sewage (including washing up liquid) into the sea?

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Jiff is a cutting compound (Mild, but it still removes gellcoat)
so i dont like to use it, i alway swear by Farecla (i think thats
how u spell it) products for gellcoat cleaning etc.

Also i hear good things about Mer polish, cos u can wash with it 2
not sure what it does to fish though.

There is a product called Simca that is supposed to clean with out
cutting but i have never used it (has anyone here?)


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Not that green myself just an observation,they are gradualy phasing out pumping raw sewage to the sea as funds permit,shareholders have to be rewared for thier investment otherwise it would be back to no blue flag beaches,and no one wants that.

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3m gelcoat restorer and wax, trust me this stuff is the dogs nads.

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mer

someone on this very forum once reckined that Mer contains calcium (chalky stuff presumably mildly abrasive) and silicon.

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Has anyone tried Starbrite deck cleaner? I assume that is designed not to harm fish.

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I've used it, and their hull cleaner, and they both worked really well. I made the mistake of doing the decks barefoot though, but regretted it when my feet started tingling and the next day a layer of skin fell off ! I don't suppose it did the fish any favours either.
Mer is great 4 cars, and the boat looked good 4 a while after I did it, but after a couple of weeks there were loads of black stripes down the side which were a sod 2 get off.

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Re: mer

Does it? no mention of that on the packs i have looked at

best not use that then

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Re: Chemical opportunity & how to kill fish

Cleaning boats- best thing is to do it asap after arriving back from trip so salt doesn't dry and crystallize.

Next, avoid doing it too much - else the brilliant shine wil go very quickly.

If you must, use washing up liquid - but you shouldn't need too much. You will need a whole load of washing up liquid before killing fish.

Try as far as poss to avoid anything like jif/cif - I use this in bilges, not on exterior. It is v abrasive, so will lose the shine of gelocoat.

Once you have got the crap off the boat, next thing thing is to aply polish BUT applying polish on anything but v clean boat is effectively creating a rubbing compound. So make sure it is all nice and rinsed down

If you are leaving the boat for a while you could apply polish and just leave it all smeary. This cuts down the light on the gelcoat, and leaves an obvious film. Next time, rinse the gunk off and polish off remaining dry polish. BUT not too much polish like i did with ljs else needs more chemicals toremove 5mm thick polish layer.

For black marks and streak, these sem to come off beautifully with descaler. Viakal is one of the brand names. incidentally, this also excellent for a sparkly sink or bog internally. And separately, as I found out, this is the stuff that kills fish. I used about three bottels for a massive clean one evening in a calm marina, next morning lots of floating dead fish around our boat. Sorry, fish.

Other tips are of course not to worry too much about it, or get someone else to clean it.

Don't use jif tho. Ultimate boat-remover - but will be clean alright tho not shiny for very long.

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Nick

Try that Oxi Action stuff Joanne bought. Put warm water into a bucket then add a scoop of powder let it dissolve then sponge it all over the dirty area, no rubbing just literally throw it on.

Leave for a few mins then get a soft scrubbing brush and a bucket of water and give it a light scrub, gets rid of mucky paws and footprints very quickly as it has a mild oxalic action which is suitable for clothes and carpets so ok for GRP


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