markras
New member
Hi folks. I'm trying to make contact with as many Buccaneer owners as I can. Would love to share ideas, experiences and problems. Is there anybody out there?
Van De Stadt Buccaneer owners plea
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melvinx
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Hello
I've just bought a buccaneer in very good condition lying in Simonstown, Cape Town. There are 8 or 9 of them at the same club (False Bay Yacht Club), and most of them are in good nick. One guy built a few of them, including his own, which means real experience is available. I think there are a few lying at Royal Cape Yacht Club in Table Bay as well.
I need to put a new motor on it, and am looking round for a second hand 5hp long shaft. These seem to be as scarce as hens' teeth. She had one accident, which was easily repaired due to the ply, and other than that is in excellent shape. Painted a year or two ago, and anti-fouled in November. Sailable as she is.
The owner sailed her for six years with his wife and sons. The sons have now moved on. No hidden flaws he assures me, and a bit of a sorry seller. At least I know she was well looked after, and used regularly.
Price - R10 000, which is about 900 GBP
Not bad for a really nice looking and stable boat. According to the locals the Buc sails like a dream, and handles better than most in that class. Good size keel with 600kg of ballast, which is just fine. I though about it for about five minutes, and then bought. I was not concerned about the boat, but I also sail a Hobie 14 as often as I can. I now have to split my time, but really want to get into some off-shore sailing. The Hobie 14 is great for fun and racing, but it's hell going down to Cape Point on one of those.
I'll email photos as soon as I have some.
Regards
Melvin
melvin@aristat.com
I've just bought a buccaneer in very good condition lying in Simonstown, Cape Town. There are 8 or 9 of them at the same club (False Bay Yacht Club), and most of them are in good nick. One guy built a few of them, including his own, which means real experience is available. I think there are a few lying at Royal Cape Yacht Club in Table Bay as well.
I need to put a new motor on it, and am looking round for a second hand 5hp long shaft. These seem to be as scarce as hens' teeth. She had one accident, which was easily repaired due to the ply, and other than that is in excellent shape. Painted a year or two ago, and anti-fouled in November. Sailable as she is.
The owner sailed her for six years with his wife and sons. The sons have now moved on. No hidden flaws he assures me, and a bit of a sorry seller. At least I know she was well looked after, and used regularly.
Price - R10 000, which is about 900 GBP
Not bad for a really nice looking and stable boat. According to the locals the Buc sails like a dream, and handles better than most in that class. Good size keel with 600kg of ballast, which is just fine. I though about it for about five minutes, and then bought. I was not concerned about the boat, but I also sail a Hobie 14 as often as I can. I now have to split my time, but really want to get into some off-shore sailing. The Hobie 14 is great for fun and racing, but it's hell going down to Cape Point on one of those.
I'll email photos as soon as I have some.
Regards
Melvin
melvin@aristat.com
Tazy
New member
Hey people, I just bought my Van de Stadt Buccanneer six weeks ago and am trying to get in as much sailing as I can before the weather turns. I am located in the Tamar Valley North of Launceston, Tasmania. My boat has an extended cabin, is made of King Billy, with a layer of fibre glass over the top and has just been lovingly restored by a retired chappy who I purchased it off.
I find it very stable , it points very high into the wind. I couldn't be happier with it and have just put in two single berths and a v-berth. We tipped her over to 40 degrees the other day and it just filled us with confidence. This is my first real boat after bouncing around on a 14ft catamaran for a couple of years. Its nice to sail now and remain dry. The sails are new and the 6hp Johnson on the rear pushes it along with no fuss at all.
Shes got new paint, lots of varnish,4 winches and a nutter of a captain.Give me a buzz at glennjoneill@yahoo.com if you want photos.
I find it very stable , it points very high into the wind. I couldn't be happier with it and have just put in two single berths and a v-berth. We tipped her over to 40 degrees the other day and it just filled us with confidence. This is my first real boat after bouncing around on a 14ft catamaran for a couple of years. Its nice to sail now and remain dry. The sails are new and the 6hp Johnson on the rear pushes it along with no fuss at all.
Shes got new paint, lots of varnish,4 winches and a nutter of a captain.Give me a buzz at glennjoneill@yahoo.com if you want photos.
BrendanS
Well-known member
Hi guys, welcome to the forum
If you are looking for other users, you might want to contact this guy as a start.
http://www.smallsailboats.co.uk/boats/buccaneer.htm
Lots of info out there on the internet, you just need to search a bit.
Interesting that the three of you are outside the UK
If you are looking for other users, you might want to contact this guy as a start.
http://www.smallsailboats.co.uk/boats/buccaneer.htm
Lots of info out there on the internet, you just need to search a bit.
Interesting that the three of you are outside the UK
amoeba1
New member
Hi
Last October I got given a Buccaneer in a bit of a state. I have spent the winter taking it to bits and restoring every little bit, varnishing etc. I am trying to make it look a bit more classic, so have covered the cabin sides with mahogany and with brass portholes, looks great!
Being spring, I hope to get it into the River Dart pretty soon so I haven't sailed it yet, but I'm told by the three previous owners I have subsequently met that it sails really well, on one occassion beating a load of cadets from the Dartmouth Naval College back into harbour.
The bloke that built her back in 1966 told me that it was the winner in a competition for a yacht design in a boating magazine of that time, you probably know the designer was Van de Stadt,
Good hunting.
Last October I got given a Buccaneer in a bit of a state. I have spent the winter taking it to bits and restoring every little bit, varnishing etc. I am trying to make it look a bit more classic, so have covered the cabin sides with mahogany and with brass portholes, looks great!
Being spring, I hope to get it into the River Dart pretty soon so I haven't sailed it yet, but I'm told by the three previous owners I have subsequently met that it sails really well, on one occassion beating a load of cadets from the Dartmouth Naval College back into harbour.
The bloke that built her back in 1966 told me that it was the winner in a competition for a yacht design in a boating magazine of that time, you probably know the designer was Van de Stadt,
Good hunting.
jumbo
New member
Hi Melvin,
You brought back many many happy memories when i read your posting re buccaneer that you bought out of Simonstown.I grew up in SA and my father started the association there when i was about 15years old ,i am now 50+ so that should give you some idea of how long we have had her in our family.Only recently has she been handed over to me and i will be going back sometime in the near future to collect herAlthough she is buc 2 she was actually the first one built.Which one have you bought ? All the ones that i can remember of pat were Jumbo,Outlaw,Lara,Buchante,which had the bigger cabin,Freya,Manta,Cameo,Naaid,which was a bit of a dog!(no 1) and the rest the names just cant seem to get at the moment .It would be great to meet up with u sometime i am based in the north west at the moment where i am skippering a private boat 07786656110 give me a call and we can have a chat all the best Ian /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
You brought back many many happy memories when i read your posting re buccaneer that you bought out of Simonstown.I grew up in SA and my father started the association there when i was about 15years old ,i am now 50+ so that should give you some idea of how long we have had her in our family.Only recently has she been handed over to me and i will be going back sometime in the near future to collect herAlthough she is buc 2 she was actually the first one built.Which one have you bought ? All the ones that i can remember of pat were Jumbo,Outlaw,Lara,Buchante,which had the bigger cabin,Freya,Manta,Cameo,Naaid,which was a bit of a dog!(no 1) and the rest the names just cant seem to get at the moment .It would be great to meet up with u sometime i am based in the north west at the moment where i am skippering a private boat 07786656110 give me a call and we can have a chat all the best Ian /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
jumbo
New member
Hi
Does any reader know the contact details of melvinx the guy who bought the buccaneer in South Africa many thanks ian(JUMBO)
Does any reader know the contact details of melvinx the guy who bought the buccaneer in South Africa many thanks ian(JUMBO)
melvinx
New member
length of mast
Hello
Who knows the length of the buccaneer mast? It's time to replace the nav lights and I don't want to buy too little cable.
thanks
Melvin
melvin@aristat.com
Hello
Who knows the length of the buccaneer mast? It's time to replace the nav lights and I don't want to buy too little cable.
thanks
Melvin
melvin@aristat.com
ClassicPlastic
New member
Re: length of mast
Hi all,
I've just bought a Splinter 21, and as a mobo owner, it's my first step into the 'dark side'... That said, I have DS yot, and hope to have a lovely cruise next week with another forumite on his Dehler, so I've got my fingers crossed that I'll get the hang of all those bits of string before too long!
Anyhow, I went for the Splinter based on its pedigree, and the excellent write-up in PBO a while ago. Obviously, I'm not aspiring to the heady heights of conversation with Buccaneer owners, but are there any other Splinter-ites out there, I wonder???
Hi all,
I've just bought a Splinter 21, and as a mobo owner, it's my first step into the 'dark side'... That said, I have DS yot, and hope to have a lovely cruise next week with another forumite on his Dehler, so I've got my fingers crossed that I'll get the hang of all those bits of string before too long!
Anyhow, I went for the Splinter based on its pedigree, and the excellent write-up in PBO a while ago. Obviously, I'm not aspiring to the heady heights of conversation with Buccaneer owners, but are there any other Splinter-ites out there, I wonder???
markras
New member
I knew there had to be some other devotees out there somewhere! I've owned Calypso for just over 10 years. When I purchased her for the princely sum of $4500 (Australian) she was in reasonable condition. Since then I have raced her constantly in twilight races here on the Derwent River in Hobart.
During that time I have replaced all sails. The best way to access cheap sails has been to seek out the local Dragon sailors. They replace sails regularly-but they're still fine for my purposes. Headsails fit with no re cutting at all. The main obviously needs to be cut down by a few feet!
The major problem I have had to deal with has been deterioration of the ply on the deck. Eventually, major surgery was called for if the deck was to be saved. All paint was sanded off and the deck was treated with epoxy wood preserver before fibreglassing and filling. All of this was painted with 2 pot epoxy paint. The result was a transformed boat! She is now rock solid and completely waterproof.
The boat races brilliantly, particularly in the regular 15-20 knot summer sea breezes here in Hobart. We regularly compete on an equal footing with boats up to 30 feet, particularly upwind!
I've got two young daughters.(6 and 8) They are swiftly becoming sailing addicts thanks to Calypso. Summer expeditions to local beaches are high on their agenda, as is tagging along in the twilight races. The main aim is to beat my father-in law (their grandpa) in his 33 footer. We manage it about 60% of the time.
The major up coming maintainance issue is to replace the bottom rudder shaft bearing-I can feel a marked shudder in the steering in any type of a swell at the moment. Any advice on the best way to go about this job??
There are several other Buccaneers around the local area. At one stage we had 3 racing in our local club fleet. There seem to be 2 types-the shallow draft, and the bulb keel. Calypso is the latter. Does anyone know where plans or other relevant details can be accessed from?
Cheers from Tasmania.
Markras.
I can be contacted at markras@netspace.net.au
During that time I have replaced all sails. The best way to access cheap sails has been to seek out the local Dragon sailors. They replace sails regularly-but they're still fine for my purposes. Headsails fit with no re cutting at all. The main obviously needs to be cut down by a few feet!
The major problem I have had to deal with has been deterioration of the ply on the deck. Eventually, major surgery was called for if the deck was to be saved. All paint was sanded off and the deck was treated with epoxy wood preserver before fibreglassing and filling. All of this was painted with 2 pot epoxy paint. The result was a transformed boat! She is now rock solid and completely waterproof.
The boat races brilliantly, particularly in the regular 15-20 knot summer sea breezes here in Hobart. We regularly compete on an equal footing with boats up to 30 feet, particularly upwind!
I've got two young daughters.(6 and 8) They are swiftly becoming sailing addicts thanks to Calypso. Summer expeditions to local beaches are high on their agenda, as is tagging along in the twilight races. The main aim is to beat my father-in law (their grandpa) in his 33 footer. We manage it about 60% of the time.
The major up coming maintainance issue is to replace the bottom rudder shaft bearing-I can feel a marked shudder in the steering in any type of a swell at the moment. Any advice on the best way to go about this job??
There are several other Buccaneers around the local area. At one stage we had 3 racing in our local club fleet. There seem to be 2 types-the shallow draft, and the bulb keel. Calypso is the latter. Does anyone know where plans or other relevant details can be accessed from?
Cheers from Tasmania.
Markras.
I can be contacted at markras@netspace.net.au
markras
New member
Re: length of mast
Try measuring the luff of your main and adding a few feet for good measure. that should do it. How do you power your lights? I have anoutboard motor. I'm told it can be organised to generate a little power. The other alternative is to install a stand alone battery. What do others think?
Cheers. Markras. markras@netspace.net.au
Try measuring the luff of your main and adding a few feet for good measure. that should do it. How do you power your lights? I have anoutboard motor. I'm told it can be organised to generate a little power. The other alternative is to install a stand alone battery. What do others think?
Cheers. Markras. markras@netspace.net.au
amoeba1
New member
Hi,
you can get Buccaneer plans here: Van de Stadt Design [info@stadtdesign.com] but they are really expensive!
Cheers from England Best wishes Chris
you can get Buccaneer plans here: Van de Stadt Design [info@stadtdesign.com] but they are really expensive!
Cheers from England Best wishes Chris
melvinx
New member
Hi
I know there are plans floating around cape town somewhere. There is a guy at False Bay who built a few, and he knows where they are. i'll try and get hold of something, scan them and email them to you.
Regards
Melvin
I know there are plans floating around cape town somewhere. There is a guy at False Bay who built a few, and he knows where they are. i'll try and get hold of something, scan them and email them to you.
Regards
Melvin
jumbo
New member
Re: length of mast
you dont want to bog the little thing down with batteries,why dont you try a small wind generator or even a fold away sun panel which you could leave there permanantly or role it up to stow all the best ian
you dont want to bog the little thing down with batteries,why dont you try a small wind generator or even a fold away sun panel which you could leave there permanantly or role it up to stow all the best ian
amoeba1
New member
dry berth legs
Has anybody fitted drying out mooring legs to a Buccaneer? Advice welcome please.
Has anybody fitted drying out mooring legs to a Buccaneer? Advice welcome please.
vanHunks
New member
Hi all
Bought a Buccy earlier this year from a guy who couldn't afford dockfees anymore... R2000, so needs the work that goes with the price, but a solid little thing. When I bought her her forestay had snapped and the furler was lying in the water. Someone at SBYC donated a forestay off a 24ft, God bless that club, but does anyone know the sort-of standard length for the forestay on a Buc? Contacted the van der Stadt company and their admin dept just tried to sell me a folder of 60+ plans for the boat @ 55 euros a pop!
Bought a Buccy earlier this year from a guy who couldn't afford dockfees anymore... R2000, so needs the work that goes with the price, but a solid little thing. When I bought her her forestay had snapped and the furler was lying in the water. Someone at SBYC donated a forestay off a 24ft, God bless that club, but does anyone know the sort-of standard length for the forestay on a Buc? Contacted the van der Stadt company and their admin dept just tried to sell me a folder of 60+ plans for the boat @ 55 euros a pop!
