Using combined chain/rope rode with a windlass

[webcraft]

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There's no windlass on the new boat, and am thinking of eventually fitting one. I see that all the gypsies that say they are for combined chain/rope will only deal with 3-strand, and I have 40m multiplait spliced to 40m chain.

I assume I just deploy and recoooover the rope manually?

Am thinking of a Lofrans Royal manual as a good compromise on price and ease of installation . . .



- W

 

[Old Harry]

I have the SL Anchorman, the anchorplait runs ober the gypsy just fine, some help is req to get the spliced section over the gypsy

 

[Leighb]

I have a Lewmar windlass and have chain and rope the rope is 8 plait and goes through the windlass without bother.

 

[Kukri]

Support Scotland and buy a Simpson Lawrence Seatiger from John in Glasgow. I just did.

 

[webcraft]

Support Scotland and buy a Simpson Lawrence Seatiger from John in Glasgow. I just did.

Enquiry sent to SL Spares

- W

 

[Kukri]

Enquiry sent to SL Spares

- W

Good man!

 

[dunedin]

The sooner you buy an electric windlass and a full chain anchor rode the more value you will get out of it.
You will do so eventually, and then wonder why you didn’t start with this. Saves money - on gear and physiotherapy- in the long run.
PS My electric windlass must have winched in well over half a kilometre of chain, in total, over the past week alone. That would take a while with a manual windlass

 

[webcraft]

The sooner you buy an electric windlass and a full chain anchor rode the more value you will get out of it.
You will do so eventually, and then wonder why you didn’t start with this. Saves money - on gear and physiotherapy- in the long run.
PS My electric windlass must have winched in well over half a kilometre of chain, in total, over the past week alone. That would take a while with a manual windlass

I'm not putting 80m of 8mm chain in the bow of a 30ft yacht . . . especially when we almost never put out more than 40m

I've managed for years with no working windlass at all, but agree electric would be nice - but at over £1000 investment in windlass, wirs and battery it is not currently an option. (Oh, and I have two boats, so you can double that)


- W

 

[dansaskip]

I fitted an electric windlass for the first time this year after years of no windlass and hand hauling the anchor chain.
Went for a Maxwell RC8. The Gypsy handles both chain and multi plait rope rode and yes it does. I have 50m of 8mm chain and 50m of 14mm Octopliat. I prefer anchoring shallow but in a deep anchorage the other day put out 60m and windlass coped fine although had to take the splice through slowly and carefully.

 

[Elessar]

The sooner you buy an electric windlass and a full chain anchor rode the more value you will get out of it.
You will do so eventually, and then wonder why you didn’t start with this. Saves money - on gear and physiotherapy- in the long run.
PS My electric windlass must have winched in well over half a kilometre of chain, in total, over the past week alone. That would take a while with a manual windlass

Why full chain?

 

[Elessar]

I have the SL Anchorman, the anchorplait runs ober the gypsy just fine, some help is req to get the spliced section over the gypsy

I’ve got a quick and I have the same jiggle required at the transition but it generally works fine on rope or chain.

 

[Neeves]

We too have a Maxwell RC8, I think its designated 6-8 (and has a 6mm gypsy but the 8mm gypsy fits as well). It to handles anchor plait and 3 ply (though we are all chain - because we have coral (otherwise a mixed rode would be fine).

If you want you can manually retrieve - but its not much fun (but saves a gym membership

We run ours of the house bank - but always have the engine running, in neutral, during retrieval (you can free fall with gravity - chain works as well as an apple. We optioned the 1000watt motor.

Easy to instal.

Very happy with it.

Now - why are you using 8mm chain on a 30' yacht......?

Jonathan

 

[webcraft]

Now - why are you using 8mm chain on a 30' yacht......?

Because it is the recommended size?
https://jimmygreen.com/content/70-anchor-rode-size-guide
http://www.sw-marine.co.uk/acatalog/Anchor_Cable_Guide.html

Been using 8mm chain (with a 10kg Spade) on my other 27ft boat for 16 years and never dragged.


- W

 

[Neeves]

I simply asked the question - as you had raised the spectre earlier of weight in the bow. If you are worried which might have been the implication - now is the time to think about it - as once you buy the windlass with the 8mm gypsy you are locked in - you have the choice, few are that fortunate - and it is too easy to focus on the windlass etc etc - and forget about the size of chain (been there, done that!).

One advantage of, smaller, lighter chain is that it takes up less room and you can carry more of it, were that a consideration (it would be here where we worry about coral). But with the smaller, lighter, chain you need to focus more on snubbers.

Its the anchor that stops you dragging - not the chain. The chain attaches you (or your yacht) to the anchor. I have seen much larger yachts using 8mm chain, they have not dragged either. We did use 8mm chain on our cat, we did drag, we changed the anchor and did not drag. We now use 6mm chain with the same anchor(s) and don't drag (or have not yet). Our cat is on a mooring with a 2t block - and has never dragged - that does not prove a 1t block would not be adequate - nor that in the future we might not drag the 2t block.

I'm just suggesting options - not being critical.

Jonathan