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Just found an old forum message talking of places where you can buy 2nd hand air heating systems. Could anybody enlighten me please!
BarryH
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Try looking at commercial vehicle breakers. The truck units are basically the same as the marine ones. You will need to change some of the fittings tho to bring it up to marine spec. If your boat doesn't run on diesel you could install a small tank just for the unit. I've fitted a unit from a bus into a boat, but to be honest it was a bit to high in the output stakes.
Acquiring a second hand unit from the truck should save you quiet a bundle of cash. The pipes and exhaust fittings will need changing for ones that will suit a boat and BSS if that applies to you. Most of them can be sourced quiet cheaply from various tubing and piping suppliers. The most difficult one will be the exhaust skin fitting. Probably have to have this made up. Good luck in your hunt!!
Yeah! I know its running rough, but your lucky its running at all!!
Acquiring a second hand unit from the truck should save you quiet a bundle of cash. The pipes and exhaust fittings will need changing for ones that will suit a boat and BSS if that applies to you. Most of them can be sourced quiet cheaply from various tubing and piping suppliers. The most difficult one will be the exhaust skin fitting. Probably have to have this made up. Good luck in your hunt!!
Yeah! I know its running rough, but your lucky its running at all!!
byron
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Look on http://listings.ebay.co.uk/aw/plistings/list/all/category1293/index.html
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rlw
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Make sure you test before you buy. Also check the condition of the heat exchanger because if it rusts through you mix heated air with exhaust gasses.
I bought an old Webasto heater and had to clean it before it worked. Once you get if figured out they are reletively easy to disassemble.
Rob
I bought an old Webasto heater and had to clean it before it worked. Once you get if figured out they are reletively easy to disassemble.
Rob
pistonbroke
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Most of the s/h Eberspacher heaters seen at boat jumbles have been sourced from old Telecom or British Gas vans. They seem to be identical to the marine version, and I know several people who have fitted them to their boats. Expect to pay around £150-200 for one, but you will need to buy some additional parts to complete the job.
If you E mail me I can let you have a couple of phone numbers of people selling them.
If you E mail me I can let you have a couple of phone numbers of people selling them.
byron
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For my sins I have in my Boat House a retired Thames Water Patrol Launch fitted with what I can only describe as a Lorry type heater. Frankly I don't think it's man enough for the job and I only have a small cabin to heat as the bulk of the vessel is cockpit as Thames Users will know.
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simongoldthorpe
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Can these old lorry heaters be run independant of the engines?
Probably a stupid question but I am good at those.
Probably a stupid question but I am good at those.
byron
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Yes Simon because they are run off the batteries, at least the one I have fitted is. However they do depend on the engine(s) being hot enough, just like a car heater.
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Trevethan
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This is a myth! Like dragons, unicorns and trustworthy government. The search for an eberspacher from a truck breakers has become my grail quest.. I will find one some day and all the secrets of the universe will be revealed to me...
I have been calling truck breakers all over the country trying to get a used heater for 6 months.
I have only managed to find them in 24 volt flavour. I reckon the elusive Harry The heat goes round and nicks 'em off any 12 volt vehicles before I can get my mitts on them.
Having said that got the names of a couple of places that do a kit c/w heater, pump and rheostat and sometimes skin fitting and a bit of ducting or exhaust for for around £300.
Still refusing to give up... want to find this elusive creature and wrench it from the still warm carcass of a BT van with my very own hands for about £80 (same as the 24 volkt types)
rgds,
Nick
I have been calling truck breakers all over the country trying to get a used heater for 6 months.
I have only managed to find them in 24 volt flavour. I reckon the elusive Harry The heat goes round and nicks 'em off any 12 volt vehicles before I can get my mitts on them.
Having said that got the names of a couple of places that do a kit c/w heater, pump and rheostat and sometimes skin fitting and a bit of ducting or exhaust for for around £300.
Still refusing to give up... want to find this elusive creature and wrench it from the still warm carcass of a BT van with my very own hands for about £80 (same as the 24 volkt types)
rgds,
Nick
BarryH
Active member
I know what you mean. If you get really, really, really, really really stuck. I have a quiet word in the ear of my brother. He's a bus driver!
Yeah! I know its running rough, but your lucky its running at all!!
Yeah! I know its running rough, but your lucky its running at all!!
Bejasus
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Perhaps I can help...
I know of a guy locally and both he and his brother have boats. I believe his brother bought up a load of either the vans or the heaters and was fitting them to boats. I know because he offered me one which I will probably buy. I believe they are 12 volts and he either knows of the bits required or sells those too. I think they had to either remove or reprogramme the timers, as BT only allowed them to be operable for limited periods, so as not to encourage people to sit in the vans all day and do no work.IHMO of course. I will find out what I can and post the answers.
"I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul."..........I think????
I know of a guy locally and both he and his brother have boats. I believe his brother bought up a load of either the vans or the heaters and was fitting them to boats. I know because he offered me one which I will probably buy. I believe they are 12 volts and he either knows of the bits required or sells those too. I think they had to either remove or reprogramme the timers, as BT only allowed them to be operable for limited periods, so as not to encourage people to sit in the vans all day and do no work.IHMO of course. I will find out what I can and post the answers.
"I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul."..........I think????
Stork_III
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Differences between 24v & 12v are small.
On D3LC models, to convert 24v to 12v, change combustion blower (pt no .25 1906 99 20 00), control unit (pt no 251895 50 00 03), Thermostat (pt no 301 00 154) and glow plug (pt no 25 1830 01 01 00). Mind you cost of new parts may be prohibitive.
On D3LC models, to convert 24v to 12v, change combustion blower (pt no .25 1906 99 20 00), control unit (pt no 251895 50 00 03), Thermostat (pt no 301 00 154) and glow plug (pt no 25 1830 01 01 00). Mind you cost of new parts may be prohibitive.
Trevethan
New member
As I recall, the controll unit alone makes this prohibitive!
Thought about installing an extra battery for the heater, but then you come up against hassles charging etc...
Thought about installing an extra battery for the heater, but then you come up against hassles charging etc...
oldgit
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local boat shop advertising units ready to go for 250 quid.
Just hold tight dear it will not be so rough when we get round the corner,trust me.
Just hold tight dear it will not be so rough when we get round the corner,trust me.
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So where is "local" then?
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cheap systems
Sounds good! please let me know.
Sounds good! please let me know.
Bejasus
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Chris, local is South Broads but I am up in Scotland for the week. I will see if I can contact him when I return. The comment about the control unit above may well be true but I believe these are removed/replaced.
"I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul."..........I think????
"I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul."..........I think????
