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We are wintering in Tunisia until march and then we will head towards malta, the toe of italy and then corfu and greece. Any ideas for unmissable places?
 

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There are so many it is impossible to list. Get yourself a copy of Rod Heikell's Greek Waters Pilot for a start. The head for Corfu - take a breather and work your way round the Ionian - should keep you busy for the first year and then tackle the Aegean - either through the Corinth Canal or round the outside. Plenty to see and do.
 

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On your way along southern Italy Rocella Ionica and La Castella are worthy of visiting. Both good moorings and cheap ( ish ). Crotone IMHO is a dump and Santa Maria de Leuca is a good jumping off point for Greece. Our first stop in Greece was Ericousa. The delights of Corfu and particularly Paxos are well documented but we really enjoyed the Gulf of Amvrakia through the Preveza channel. Its totally different with an air of peace and tranquility. Moor in the top north west corner and row the dinghy up the river early morning....awesome. Further south Kalamos, Kastus, the list goes on. Hope to see you around.
 

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On your way along southern Italy Rocella Ionica and La Castella are worthy of visiting. Both good moorings and cheap ( ish ). Crotone IMHO is a dump and Santa Maria de Leuca is a good jumping off point for Greece. Our first stop in Greece was Ericousa. The delights of Corfu and particularly Paxos are well documented but we really enjoyed the Gulf of Amvrakia through the Preveza channel. Its totally different with an air of peace and tranquility. Moor in the top north west corner and row the dinghy up the river early morning....awesome. Further south Kalamos, Kastus, the list goes on. Hope to see you around.

Just wondered when you were last in Le Castella? According to Rod's 2009-10 Mediterranean Almanac "Laid mooring lines are reported to be inadequate for all but the smallest craft" My latest Med Almanac I've left on the boat out in Corfu so relaying on slightly older one whilst back home!
 

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Rod Heikell - old testament

We have most of his books for the Med, but it's been a while since he cruised intensively there, so is relying on updates from others. Our books are so full of hand-written annotations that we've got no margins left. Good for basic planning, but would cross-check with other sources (plug for Cruising Association), before making decisions.
 

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re Rocella Ionica:
the Imray pilot book recommends a tortuous dog-leg across shallows to avoid longshore drift deposits immediately west of the south mole.

When I was last there in mid-July 2010, having seen fairly large fishing boats charging in close to the mole, I made soundings with lead line from a point due south of the ruined breakwater to the west of the harbour, up to the south mole. Depths were never less than 4 metres, deeper closer to the mole -- in other words significantly greater than the recommended entry route.

By all accounts underwater conditions change in the entrance, principally due to winter storms. So whether the same is true now, I can only guess, but clearly some effort is made to make the 'natural' approach navigable.

Incidentally, the anchorage just to the west of the entrance is fine in offshore winds (the more so since the 'marina' began charging).
 

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Hi DJK, we were there August last year. The inner harbour was fine. We moored stern to with lazy lines. As we went into the inner harbour we went to the portside where some friends had 'kept' a slot for us, despite the frantic handwaving of the marinero. Its not the biggest of places but very comfortable once inside. The town is quite interesting with a nice castle. Anchoring isn't allowed for quite a way outside the harbour as it is a marine conservation area.
MacD Yes as you say they charge at Rocella now but at 20 euros a night we were ecstatic after being ripped off at Riposto, Sicily. The visitors pontoon was buzzing with crews either going to or coming from Greece and there were bikes to 'hire out' but free of charge. In our opinion a very pleasant place. Wouldn't risk an entry in big seas tho'.
 

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We are wintering in Tunisia until march and then we will head towards malta, the toe of italy and then corfu and greece. Any ideas for unmissable places?

I'm new to the med and my sole knowledge of Greece is the Southern and Northern Ionian.

For what it's worth, I preferred the Southern Ionian due to a seemingly limitless supply of remote anchorages wheras Corfu/Paxos seemed to have more limited choices for a night totally alone.

Here's some images that might give you some ideas.

South Ionian:
http://fattie.freehostia.com/Ionian2009/
http://fattie.freehostia.com/IonianImages2008/
http://fattie.freehostia.com/ionian/

North Ionian:
http://s463.photobucket.com/albums/qq354/fattiefattie/Ionian 2009/?albumview=slideshow

If you scroll down to Greece there may be some places of interest on this Google map:

http://tinyurl.com/ylfdut6

Maybe that'll help, maybe it won't but it was a nice excuse for me to look at some of my old pics, so thanks!
 

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Hi DJK, we were there August last year. The inner harbour was fine. We moored stern to with lazy lines. As we went into the inner harbour we went to the portside where some friends had 'kept' a slot for us, despite the frantic handwaving of the marinero. Its not the biggest of places but very comfortable once inside. The town is quite interesting with a nice castle. Anchoring isn't allowed for quite a way outside the harbour as it is a marine conservation area.
MacD Yes as you say they charge at Rocella now but at 20 euros a night we were ecstatic after being ripped off at Riposto, Sicily. The visitors pontoon was buzzing with crews either going to or coming from Greece and there were bikes to 'hire out' but free of charge. In our opinion a very pleasant place. Wouldn't risk an entry in big seas tho'.
Curlysue........Thanks. What were you charged at Riposto? I used to stop there in my yacht delivery days and found it a great marina except one night arriving in pitch dark and no nav lights on at the end of the outside wall! ( this was 6 years ago and I'm sure they've fixed that light by now! ) The town/village is lovely and the brooding Mount Etna in the background adds to the charm of the place and we were there on market day and picked up loads of lovely fresh veggies.
 

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Rip-off-so !!

DJK, 96 euros a night for 10.4 mts in August. I'm almost embarrassed to admit that I paid it but we had some urgent maintenance that we had to do before crossing to Italy. We only stayed one night and christened it Rip-off-so !!! That said, it is a well organised marina, but even so......we got the impression that they like the superyachts in there, and if you were a tiddler like us its either just pay up or move on.
 

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I'm new to the med and my sole knowledge of Greece is the Southern and Northern Ionian.

For what it's worth, I preferred the Southern Ionian due to a seemingly limitless supply of remote anchorages wheras Corfu/Paxos seemed to have more limited choices for a night totally alone.

Here's some images that might give you some ideas.

South Ionian:
http://fattie.freehostia.com/Ionian2009/
http://fattie.freehostia.com/IonianImages2008/
http://fattie.freehostia.com/ionian/

North Ionian:
http://s463.photobucket.com/albums/qq354/fattiefattie/Ionian 2009/?albumview=slideshow

If you scroll down to Greece there may be some places of interest on this Google map:

http://tinyurl.com/ylfdut6

Maybe that'll help, maybe it won't but it was a nice excuse for me to look at some of my old pics, so thanks!

Mark, Brilliant photos, loved looking at them all.
What a great Pub Quiz subject for all us Ionian anoraks...where was this photo taken?? etc etc.
Shame Navvie's in Kontokali's gone....Ideal venue!!

Regards,
 

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The Pelopponese in the south, keep an eye the weather, a beautiful place. The Halkidiki peninsulars in the North. We spent a few weeks there and didn't see another yacht. Also don't miss the monastries on the (Mount) Athos penisular.
 
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If you read between the lines in the above postings you will see that Italy is very "missable". Nothing much except the useful cheap marina at Rocella Ionica. If you moor on the right hand side away from everyone you might avoid payment. Theoritically they shouldn't be able to charge you as this is all EU funded and not finished yet, but when the local Police come round to collect your 20 euros as a "contribution to the local community" you can't really argue!

Pizza bought by the metre in the marina restaurant seems popular.
 
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