UK’s biggest warship suffers propeller shaft damage off south coast after setting sail for US

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Bouba said:
So...a simple question...those that kept extolling the short comings of the ship, both in design and construction...are you satisfied now that it was an accident (whether human error or not)? Or do you still blame the ship?
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As Zhou Enlai said, when asked if the French Revolution had been a success, “It’s too early to tell.”

We will have to wait until she’s dry docked, and then interpret the wall of lies from the MOD.

The only thing she could have hit, where she was when the damage was reported, would have been a submarine. She might have clouted something on the way out of Pompey and only noticed it later, perhaps as the damage grew worse.

Otherwise, it’s a build fault or a design fault.

These ships were put together by people with no experience of big ship construction. No ships of this (actually quite modest) size had been built in the UK for twenty years. And we know there was a shaft alignment issue (covered up) on the sister. So I don’t rule out a design or construction fault. The people who threw these ships together gave us the Type 45s, remember?
 
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Kukri said:
As Zhou Enlai said, when asked if the French Revolution had been a success, “It’s too early to tell.”

We will have to wait until she’s dry docked, and then interpret the wall of lies from the MOD.

The only thing she could have hit, given where she was when the damage was reported, would be a submarine. She might have clouted something on the way out of Pompey.

Otherwise, it’s a build fault or a design fault.

These ships were put together by people with no experience of big ship construction. No ships of this (actually quite modest) size had been built in the UK for twenty years. And we know there was a shaft alignment issue (covered up) on the sister. So I don’t rule out a design or construction fault. The people who threw these ships together gave us the Type 45s, remember?
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Fair comments
 
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Frogmogman said:
Slightly ironic that the previous HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse were lost off Malaya in Dec 1941 for lack of air cover.

HMS Indomitable, the aircraft carrier assigned to group G had had to dry dock after running aground in Jamaica…..
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Not ironic, lucky; if she hadn't run aground she'd probably be on the bottom with them, a dozen or so Hurricanes would not have held off 90 bombers.
Kukri said:
I can answer that, I think: no.
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There are DDs which could be made fit for the carriers but that isn't a priority for MoD(a mistake IMO); KGV in Southampton, Inchgreen in Greenock, No5 dock at Cammell Laird will all fit the hull, but may need changes to accommodate the sponsons etc. There is the big dock in H&W, but IIRC the RN haven't liked sending things to Belfast since an RFA refit went a bit wrong. The industrial strategy still has holes in, Rosyth is not and should never have been considered viable for emergency docking, Between tides and sniffing either the bottom or dock walls it's too hard to get the carriers in and out.
 
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