Tiller Vs Wheel?

[billyfish]

I have both...finish motor sailer. Love the wheel when its pishing down and cold ...love the tiller when it's hot...no such thing as a perfect boat

 

[mrming]

I particularly like having a tiller when reversing in tight spaces. Handy to be able to stand facing backwards and it feels very intuitive to have the boat follow the rudder.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

I particularly like having a tiller when reversing in tight spaces. Handy to be able to stand facing backwards and it feels very intuitive to have the boat follow the rudder.

Full lock to full lock is pretty quick with a tiller. None of that 3 1/2 turns nonsense?

 

[geem]

Full lock to full lock is pretty quick with a tiller. None of that 3 1/2 turns nonsense?

Haha, but if you are in a 19t boat it's never going to turn on a 6pence. If I was racing around the cans I would have a racing around the cans boat. When the weather gets bad the heavy boat is way more comfortable

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Haha, but if you are in a 19t boat it's never going to turn on a 6pence. If I was racing around the cans I would have a racing around the cans boat. When the weather gets bad the heavy boat is way more comfortable

Sure. Our boat requires nerve with the wind up, she becomes even more ‘hands on’. Our tiller steers the outboard too, talking of turning circles. Different boat for a different kind of sailing. But either could in fact be steered with a tiller or a wheel without fundamentally changing the character of the boat.

 

[geem]

Sure. Our boat requires nerve with the wind up, she becomes even more ‘hands on’. Our tiller steers the outboard too, talking of turning circles. Different boat for a different kind of sailing. But either could in fact be steered with a tiller or a wheel without fundamentally changing the character of the boat.

Not so easy on a CC. I like the CC in poor weather. A sprayhood that covers half the cockpit and ends at the wheel. Going to weather the helmsman can duck out of spray. You can sit four people out of the weather below it. Very different to our Snowgoose that had nothing. We kept that boat super light to maintain its performance. The 44 mono has delivered better passage times fully loaded than the Snowgoose did as light as was possible to cruise one long distance. Off the wind the Prout was super comfy even in F8 whereas the mono will role. There is no perfect boat

 

[Chiara’s slave]

You’re going to need a bigger tiller?

 

[Refueler]

The problem for me is not so much that, it’s more that tiller pilots simply don’t react to gusts and waves quickly enough if you’re in a boat that’s at the ‘sportier’ end of the cruiser spectrum. If you compare their hard-over time to steering by hand, they’re painfully slow. Below decks ones apply course correction much faster.

Tillerpilots are user adjustable for gusts and waves .... and take note that the electronics is usually similar whether an on deck or below deck unit ...

When it comes to Hard Over - why are you using the TP ?? But I can say this - when I hit both 1 + 10 buttons together - it runs motor at full speed and boat tacks smartly, even for my portly old tub ...

 

[Refueler]

I particularly like having a tiller when reversing in tight spaces. Handy to be able to stand facing backwards and it feels very intuitive to have the boat follow the rudder.

On my boat - you better have strong arms reversing ...... even with an overlength tiller, mine is about 20% longer than original, the rudder really fights you ....
The extra length is not for greater leverage ... its length means I can drop the end over the coaming and have it trapped by cleat to keep helm hard over when needed ... I have both hands free.

 

[fredrussell]

Tillerpilots are user adjustable for gusts and waves .... and take note that the electronics is usually similar whether an on deck or below deck unit ...

They’re adjustable up to a point, past that point they struggle.

When it comes to Hard Over - why are you using the TP ??

See post #102.

 

[jamie N]

With a TP10 on my Folkboat, I've sometimes just had it attached holding the tiller, and set the boat up around it, so to speak. Rather as if using it as a lazy way of lashing the tiller really, manually putting in slight adjustments when needed, to avoid the battery consumption and quite heavy wear in the lumpy stuff around here.

 

[johnalison]

I particularly like having a tiller when reversing in tight spaces. Handy to be able to stand facing backwards and it feels very intuitive to have the boat follow the rudder.

Aargh. I hate doing that, and even more so watching it. When going astern I stand astride the tiller facing forwards and twist round to look aft but with the ability to check on my progress by looking over the bow, essential when backing a narrow alley.

 

[Chiara’s slave]

Aargh. I hate doing that, and even more so watching it. When going astern I stand astride the tiller facing forwards and twist round to look aft but with the ability to check on my progress by looking over the bow, essential when backing a narrow alley.

We have a Spinlock spade grip extension. I stand on the seat, able to see over the sprayhood, and of course the whole arse end of the boat. A foot for the throttle, OH on the appropriate outrigger with a roving fender or the lines, as appropriate

 

[Buck Turgidson]

With a TP10 on my Folkboat, I've sometimes just had it attached holding the tiller, and set the boat up around it, so to speak. Rather as if using it as a lazy way of lashing the tiller really, manually putting in slight adjustments when needed, to avoid the battery consumption and quite heavy wear in the lumpy stuff around here.

I do this too. if I can't quite get her to track straight with sail trim I use the TP to set a little rudder so that she's balanced. Iv'e sailed for hours like this.

 

[Cariadco]

Defo, wheel...Bigger the Better!!

 

[jordanbasset]

My wife's first experience of bigger boats on charter was on one with a tiller and no in-mast furling. We chartered that type of boat a couple of times and then we charted one with wheel steering and in-mast furling.
After that when we decided to buy our first boat her conditions were it would have to have wheel steering and in-mast furling, which we subsequently did get.
She was happy and so was I