Thinking about summer 2022 and destinations

[Kelpie]

Please forgive my ignorance, but-- ROL & PLF ?????

Although, on second thoughts, is ROL republic of Ireland?- but might have thought "Irish" More suitable in this context, so I am not sure.
I do wish forumites would stop using abreviations. I never did like crosswords

It's really not all that cryptic.
RoI means Republic of Ireland; using the word Ireland on its own does not distinguish between RoI and NI.
PLF is Passenger Locator Form, an essential part of travel for anybody who has crossed a border since early 2020.

 

[DFL1010]

Which RS?
Personally I don't like the 'RS Games' format, I'd rather go to a Nationals where the club is only trying to please one class, rather than several at a time.

Plan A is to go halfs on a 400 with a mate. However, weekends off are not guaranteed next year, so maybe an Aero? Hard to find used though, unfortunately, and the 9 doesn't seem that popular compared to the 7, and getting down to fighting weight is going to be tricky in the land of the pasty.
Hence, why it might be the old Laser from the back garden.

 

[Daydream believer]

It's really not all that cryptic.
RoI means Republic of Ireland; using the word Ireland on its own does not distinguish between RoI and NI.
PLF is Passenger Locator Form, an essential part of travel for anybody who has crossed a border since early 2020.

Thanks. Have not been there since 2014 so no entry papers needed last time

 

[PeterWright]

It's possibly a big if, but IF we don't get a nasty new variation of Covid, I rather think governments will have recognised the futility of trying to keep out something that's as contagious as a cold and, for most people, little worse, and will remove restrictions, compulsory tests and all the rest.

It seems to me that to describe a disease that has killed nearly 150,000 fellow citizens in about 2 years as "little worse" than a cold is a tad callous.

Peter.

 

[Fascadale]

Please forgive my ignorance, but-- ROL & PLF ?????

Although, on second thoughts, is ROL republic of Ireland?- but might have thought "Irish" More suitable in this context, so I am not sure.
I do wish forumites would stop using abreviations. I never did like crosswords

I do apologise: I dislike these abbreviations myself: this was an example of hurried and lazy typing

RoI, Republic of Ireland

PLF, Passenger Locator Form, a piece of Covid inspired paperwork that is supposed to facilitate “test and trace” as you cross various international borders

NoI, North of Ireland, this is the difficult one. Some people dislike the term “Northern Ireland” whilst some will quibble at “Ulster”. One very eminent poster always uses the term “Noriron” but perhaps the learned member for Donaghadee will soon be along to put us all straight. Seemingly the term “North of Ireland” also has cultural and political value

 

[Daydream believer]

I do apologise: I dislike these abbreviations myself: this was an example of hurried and lazy typing

RoI, Republic of Ireland

PLF, Passenger Locator Form, a piece of Covid inspired paperwork that is supposed to facilitate “test and trace” as you cross various international borders

NoI, North of Ireland, this is the difficult one. Some people dislike the term “Northern Ireland” whilst some will quibble at “Ulster”. One very eminent poster always uses the term “Noriron” but perhaps the learned member for Donaghadee will soon be along to put us all straight. Seemingly the term “North of Ireland” also has cultural and political value

Thankyou. Obvious when explained & i did not know about the passenger locator form anyway.
It took me ages to work out SWMBO & I recently saw a post where a woke chap complained as it was sexist to women & possibly why some did not use the forum. So perhaps the mods will ban that & follow the policies of the Welsh govt surrounding banning the use of some words.& abreviations ( is that political?)
All I need to know know is what "OLEWILL" stands for & i will be set up for proper forum use after all these years
Cheers

 

[Stemar]

It seems to me that to describe a disease that has killed nearly 150,000 fellow citizens in about 2 years as "little worse" than a cold is a tad callous.

Peter.

Sorry - I wasn't clear. In no way did I intend to minimise the pandemic up to now. I was referring to Omicron, which appears to be taking over from Delta. While it's still a risk to some people, for those in reasonable health, especially if they're vaccinated, it isn't significantly worse than any of the dozen or more winter viruses that do the rounds each year. The last figures I saw were that 80% of hospital admissions with Covid were for something else, and the Covid was incidental to their broken leg, or whatever and almost all of the others have the Delta variant or some significant co-morbidity that makes them exceptionally vulnerable.

Since it's so contagious that it seems getting it is only a matter of time unless you become a hermit, attempts to slow the spread are a waste of time, and could even have a negative impact, as the quicker it spreads, and spreads immunity, the quicker it will replace Delta, which is really is nasty.

 

[Kelpie]

I do apologise: I dislike these abbreviations myself: this was an example of hurried and lazy typing

RoI, Republic of Ireland

PLF, Passenger Locator Form, a piece of Covid inspired paperwork that is supposed to facilitate “test and trace” as you cross various international borders

NoI, North of Ireland, this is the difficult one. Some people dislike the term “Northern Ireland” whilst some will quibble at “Ulster”. One very eminent poster always uses the term “Noriron” but perhaps the learned member for Donaghadee will soon be along to put us all straight. Seemingly the term “North of Ireland” also has cultural and political value

There's something of a sliding scale, denoting the likely views of the speaker:

"Ulster" is often used incorrectly, as it refers to a region of the island of Ireland which includes all nine counties, three of which are within the Republic. Using 'Ulster' as shorthand for Northern Ireland is common but factually incorrect.

Northern Ireland works for most people.

The North of Ireland is also pretty neutral.

The Six Counties generally denotes that the speaker would view reunification favourably.

Feel free to use whichever term works for you... but don't say 'Ulster' unless you are referring to the geographical, not political, area.

 

[rotrax]

I trust I can use " Ulster " when refering to that most excellent Rugby Team?

 

[AngusMcDoon]

One very eminent poster always uses the term “Noriron”...

Why thank you, but I actually write Norniron, with an 'n' in the middle. Or maybe you are not referring to me.

 

[Fascadale]

Why thank you, but I actually write Norniron, with an 'n' in the middle. Or maybe you are not referring to me.

Yes, I stand corrected, “Norniron” it is but I think you may not be the only eminent poster who uses that term. Perhaps another gentleman in a very speedy Co32………..HNY

 

[stav]

Happy New year everyone, been years since I have been here, I think.... Ireland sounds interesting, might have 3 or 4 (slight chance of 6) weeks this summer, but would probably be single handed. Anybody used St Ives Bay as an anchorage on the way to Ireland (from S coast) Cork to Shannon has always been an area wanted to visit? I have insurance for 24 hrs. But I have thought about the N of Spain and the Azores but need more time for that? (Retirment 3yrs away) Westerly Conway. Is this OK to add to this post?

 

[underdog]

2021 our annual cruise took us from Coleraine to to Cape Wrath. At Cape Wrath the crew mutinied as we had runout of home made marmalade and refused to go further. Also the skipper had run out of charts and the excellent Clyde Cruising club sailing directions. Santa has now provided the necessary directions and charts to progress further to the Orkney and Shetland islands.
The skipper will ensure an adequate supply of marmalade to ensure the crew's happiness. So hoping for fair winds and clement weather in 2022.

 

[doug748]

Happy New year everyone, been years since I have been here, I think.... Ireland sounds interesting, might have 3 or 4 (slight chance of 6) weeks this summer, but would probably be single handed. Anybody used St Ives Bay as an anchorage on the way to Ireland (from S coast) Cork to Shannon has always been an area wanted to visit? I have insurance for 24 hrs. But I have thought about the N of Spain and the Azores but need more time for that? (Retirment 3yrs away) Westerly Conway. Is this OK to add to this post?

I am no expert but have sailed the coast and would avoid St Ives bay as an overnight stop prior to a long passage singlehanded. There is a high chance of a less than restful sleep unless conditions were perfect. I think we have all experienced the killer swell that creeps up in the night ? Having said that Dag Pike thinks it is doable:

Carbis Bay & St Ives: shelter on Cornwall's north coast - Yachting Monthly

The coast is very open to the Atlantic swell and unlike Brittany has no deep harbours or offshore reefs. Scilly is the normal stopover and is a good option in all but the worst conditions.

Fisherman is the main man for this coast and may be along in a while with some real experience.

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[Daydream believer]

I decided that the Bristol Channel was not worth the hassle, so i went Newlyn to Milford Haven Then crossed to Dunlaghaire . The first leg is about 100 miles & by taking the inshore route round Lands end it took 18 hours both times. The second leg is about 120M & took 22 hours both times. I wanted to go to Arklow first time but I had some F7 & was off Arklow in the dark. I chickened out of entering an unknown port ( No chart plotter etc.) & carried on to Dunlaghaire . I did not bother with even trying for Arklow second time. On long legs I prefer to aim for 24 hour entry destinations so if I am seasick ( I was very sick on the first leg both times) I can always be sure of not having to mess about too much when I arrive.
I suggest that one considers these options as that section does not leave much to attract one.
the Scillies is a long dog leg if time constraints apply & one wants to get to the NW sailing areas ASAP.

 

[TSB240]

Happy New year everyone, been years since I have been here, I think.... Ireland sounds interesting, might have 3 or 4 (slight chance of 6) weeks this summer, but would probably be single handed. Anybody used St Ives Bay as an anchorage on the way to Ireland (from S coast) Cork to Shannon has always been an area wanted to visit? I have insurance for 24 hrs. But I have thought about the N of Spain and the Azores but need more time for that? (Retirment 3yrs away) Westerly Conway. Is this OK to add to this post?

Used St Ives on our way to Scillies this year. It was OK for an overnight stop but we were not made very welcome by the local tripper boats when we used " their anchorage". They complained as soon as we turned up and anchored in the charted Anchorage which they happen to use whilst waiting their turn to pick up the Grockles from the drying harbour.

All fine later as they disappeared off to their permanent moorings some 500 yards away!

Their actions including making close runs at maximum wake speed were filmed and reported to HM who had given us permission to anchor as it was G7 meeting time!

Personally I would make the effort to stop at Padstow and get a good rest there before making for either South Wales or Kilmore Quay. We skipped St Ives on our return passage and anchored on Doom Bar for 2 hours waiting the tide in preference to a repeat episode at St Ives.

 

[oldmanofthehills]

I agree st ives is an unsatisfactory harbour and stopped using it on the way to scilly making single hop from padstow which save an hours sea time compared to stopping at st ives. Did once stoped there in later years when bad chop caused engine to splutter from fuel debris just as we pushed into a head sea off st ives. Clearing filters was no joy in that rolling harbour and despite the lateness of the hour we didnt go ashore for fear of a soaking and pushed on belatedly to scilly. Big seas but less bounce away from there.

We are planning to go to west scottish islands via east ireland this coming summer. We used to go to ireland from upper bristol channel via milford haven but now will go from plymouth via newlyn.

So our plan is to go newlyn, round the land and head straight milford and then over to ireland. It would be shame to miss wexford on our holiday so provided tide and weather suit we will head for there. Our boat is a bit slow so maybe 24 hours to milford. I guess the ideal is try ensure arriving landsend slack tide is at dawn for a day passage or dusk for a night passage, but have nervously been through at night in moderate fog. The alternative to Padstow which might suit some is to go via Lundy but that is always rolly except in due westery

Kilmore Quay not a bad destination either and Arklow quite quaint in a rustic sort of way