The Hamble in Spate

Seajet said:
jac,

yes I was struck by the ( relatively ) low marina charges Dylan mentioned, it was 2-3 times that decades ago for my 22' !

I wondered if maybe Monty had rationalised charges, but then I was distracted by a squadron of pigs.
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You thought Monty had rationalised charges !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You need a lot of help!!!!!!!
 
Too late, one nanosecond it flashed across my mind the charges at Bucklers Hard may have been rationalised, next thing I knew a team barged through the door and started giving me electric shocks; last words I heard were " he's gone to a better place ".

Now I find myself surrounded by Oliver Lee designs, just had a very informative chat with the man himself, haven't seen any mobo's apart from Nelson pilot cutters yet.

Someone told me, somewhat cryptically I thought, that Bucklers Hard here is what it ought to be and I won't be hearing of Monty again, apart from the character modelled on him in The Simpsons, Montgomery Burns.

Anyway the boffins here inc Barnes Walliss have told me to ask how is the reception down there via the new h-mail ?
 
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I remember a rowing race in 1985, a tournament with several heats...I did very well until the final, when one of the dories which was meant to be keeping the race-zone free of other traffic, churned up such a wake that my oars jumped out of my rowlocks and I fell behind, coming last. That wave was a really stupid misjudgment by the driver.

I remember sailing from Chichester to Seaview in 1990 on a very calm, hot day...a coaster passed us a clear mile ahead, and five minutes later, the ship's wake reached us, and was so high that we lost sight of the coast when we were in the troughs...but it was smooth and silent. It felt like being mid-ocean, and it was bliss. A very rare pleasure.

I remember crossing the wake of the Isle of Wight passenger catamaran, last year...it had passed my Osprey less than a hundred yards ahead. The wake gave the old boat such a slam, I thought for a minute I'd lose the mast or see water flooding into the cockpit through a crack.

I was filming at the time, and in the worst of it, I'm afraid I unwittingly pointed the lens at the cockpit floor, but there's a second when the bow is clearly visible six feet up in the air, from where it just crashes down on to the flat water behind the wake.

People driving motor boats might bear in mind that small craft in their wake aren't only set rolling to and fro by the wave, it can really be very violent.
 
Interesting about wakes, in the 60s as ships passed about 2 miles off the wake would arrive a few minutes later, and on one occasion took a boat that had been left close to the water off the beach. Modern ships don't leave any wake.
 
fisherman said:
Interesting about wakes, in the 60s as ships passed about 2 miles off the wake would arrive a few minutes later, and on one occasion took a boat that had been left close to the water off the beach. Modern ships don't leave any wake.
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that is my experience too

I guess they are designed for efficiency - with that snoopy bow

when on a mooring on the Orwell four years ago the boat hardly moved when a ship went past. When in bed you could just feel the boat rise slightly as the ships displaced water rather than creating a wake. I guess the

whereas when I was a kid sailing on the Orwell they were much more impressive

I guess the snoopy bow does a lot

Pilot vessels on the other hand are magnificent wake generators - really steep and short. Tugs also produce huge wakes for their size - as do TEPGPs
 
Seajet said:
Seeing as I was sailing a dinghy - which requires skills - and very nearly run over and killed by a berk in a speedboat - which also requires skills but doesn't often have any applied, any idiot can turn a steering wheel and slam a throttle open - I reckon I have every reason to feel righteous !

The benefit of the speed limit on Windermere isn't just to sailing boat types, it's to the surrounding shores, and for miles around noise wise.

It always amazes me that people put things like Moonrakers and their modern equivalents on the lake, even keeping to the speed limit it must get pretty limited.

If mobo's want to play at high speeds, instead of wrecking a tranquil place and risking other people's lives, there's a newly invented alternative, don't know if it will ever catch on mind - I think the catchy marketing name is ' the sea '.
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Rather than impose a lake-wide speed limit and so effectively exclude those that had waterskied ski on the lake for many years, perhaps they could have separated the skiers from the sailors by having a waterski area.

And perhaps separate the dangerous dinghy sailors from other water users. And of course then ban dinghy racing for reasons of safety and to preclude anti social behaviour.

As for tranquility, I remember it that way on Coniston, but rarely on Windermere.

Garold
 
Garold said:
...and perhaps separate the dangerous dinghy sailors from other water users. And of course then ban dinghy racing for reasons of safety and to preclude anti social behaviour.
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Very sound idea, can it be organised on salt water too? The dangerous dinghy sailors (and those frightful competitive ones) are a hellish nuisance to us gentlemanly dinghy sailors. :rolleyes:
 
Garold,

I had the temerity to sail on Conniston too and to hell with the noise, pollution and danger to others my 10' gunter dinghy caused.

After all Donald Campbell set a fine precedent, never did him any harm.
 
Seajet said:
Garold,

I had the temerity to sail on Conniston too and to hell with the noise, pollution and danger to others my 10' gunter dinghy caused.

After all Donald Campbell set a fine precedent, never did him any harm.
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I remember the shock of Campbells accident far too vividly for something that happened nearly 50 years ago. The lake had always felt so harmless and benign before then. We had spent much time sailing, skiing, rowing, canoeing, and snorkeling in/on Coniston. But the accident cast a bit of a shadow over any fun-making activities on the lake the following season. I think that some of the adults had some social interaction with him or his team before Jan 67 and so there was a strong sense of loss among them.

Anyway, it's not all about you Seajet.

There's other people doing other activities out there on the water and there should be a place for everyone.

But if you feel different, it's your choice. A divisive and somewhat antagonistic choice, but yours to make.

Garold
 
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