The end of paper charts is nigh!

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There are plenty of other countries that produce paper charts. I've delivered yachts with various styles. Even some printed in.....Austria. None are hard to use. Chart symbols and abbreviations much the same.

However......Imray for me.
 

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There are plenty of other countries that produce paper charts. I've delivered yachts with various styles. Even some printed in.....Austria. None are hard to use. Chart symbols and abbreviations much the same.

However......Imray for me.
Charts produced by national HOs will adhere to a standard set of chart symbols and colours. That's the real advantage of the Admiralty range - they are the same as the charts available from HOs world-wide, so you can get charts of the same appearance anywhere in the world. Imray charts, while excellent, have two drawbacks - first, they are a second-generation product, as Imray don't do their own survey. Second, they don't adhere to the international standard for the presentation of charts, so if you go to an area not covered by them, you may well have to learn a new set of symbols and colours, which may or may not be intuitive - and switching between them has the potential for misreading one or the other.
 

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Charts produced by national HOs will adhere to a standard set of chart symbols and colours. That's the real advantage of the Admiralty range - they are the same as the charts available from HOs world-wide, so you can get charts of the same appearance anywhere in the world. Imray charts, while excellent, have two drawbacks - first, they are a second-generation product, as Imray don't do their own survey. Second, they don't adhere to the international standard for the presentation of charts, so if you go to an area not covered by them, you may well have to learn a new set of symbols and colours, which may or may not be intuitive - and switching between them has the potential for misreading one or the other.
I'm lucky enough to have used all sorts. But each occasion with a new style I simply spent some time getting familiarised.

Bought some US charts in StMaarten for a trip through the Bahamas. All it took was a bit of time effort and remembering that the depths are in fathoms. :cool:
 

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I have Garmin charts as well as a full set of UKHO charts plus detailed SHOM charts, in my area the rocks don’t move but there is a big difference on where you can go between LW and HW and neaps and springs. I don’t update my charts.
The Garmin charts are very simplified charts, some of the symbols are easy to confuse when you are used to HO charts.
Some of the drying heights of rocks in my area CI are wrong on Garmin probably due to over simplification.
I can’t see why UKHO distributors can’t have chart printers and print on demand.
I navigate and plan with Garmin charts but if I go into an an unfamiliar area I will refer to the paper chart and have it to hand.
When the lights go out there is no plan “B” of paper charts if you don’t have them.
 

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It had to happen, although we got old charts on board , all our navigation is now done with Digital charts .
Someone said not long ago ,BUT what happen when the power goes down ,
Well the worst that can happen is GPS for some reason stop even then I could do a EP and work out COG , as far as power going down , with 2 iPads an Samsung and a chart plotter , it would mean 4 different power source would have to crash .
Maybe, but for passage planning there really is nothing to beat a paper chart. Even if you have a 50 inch monitor for your plotter, you cant draw on it in the same way, or stick dividers in it.
 

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Maybe, but for passage planning there really is nothing to beat a paper chart. Even if you have a 50 inch monitor for your plotter, you cant draw on it in the same way, or stick dividers in it.
I find a plotter ideal for passage planning.
I initially put the way points in at the approximate locations.
Then zoom in on the route to make sure I haven't missed anything, rocks etc and also to fine tune the way point locations
Very simple and quick
 

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I used to use the UKHO Raster charts, had a good portfolio of them, around £3k worth. Updated with a single fee each year around £100. Then a few years ago they decided to stop selling & only rent the new charts. Effectively meant re-buying all charts every year to stay updated. So the cost went sky-high.

Thank goodness for Ocpn & 'O'Charts.

A clear signal the UKHO consider us a pain in the whatsit & don't want deal with our needs.
 

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Overreliance on the Global Positioning System (GPS) has been expected to be vulnerable to Russian and Chinese Anti-Satellite (ASAT), lasers, and Electronic Warfare (EW) jamming.
Vice Chief of Space Operations General David D. Thompson admitted before the Senate Armed Services Strategic Forces Sub-Committee hearing on May 11 about “(the US having) rely on it solely and exclusively and too heavily.”
 

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Maybe, but for passage planning there really is nothing to beat a paper chart. Even if you have a 50 inch monitor for your plotter, you cant draw on it in the same way, or stick dividers in it.
If you can't passage plain on a plotter im not sure how you manage with chart .
my complaints about plotters aslys been , its makes is so easy for someone who not learn how to navigate that its brought alsorts of novices out on he water.
 
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