Suez blocked.

[Tomahawk]

I wonder if they have started working on various alternative methods now or if they are going to wait for each method to fail before spending the money on the next idea. I'm guessing the latter so any Chinese made things I think i'll be wanting this summer I'm ordering now.

Why are you buying anything Chinese?
We are sufering teh biggest collapse n our standard of living and curtailment of freedoms because of the Chinese. Any time you buy from china you are supporting a despotic government that has inflicted death on millions on acount of their behaviour.

 

[BobnLesley]

Perhaps a little more important than some hold-up in Egypt?
BREAKING NEWS : Yorkshire holds it breath as the main shipping route of pork pies is blocked !!
Fred Slathwaite , Captain of the vessel, said “ One minute we were fine , then a gust of wind caught us !!”
“Yorkshire is expected to loose as much as £3.45 a day until the carnage can be cleared , which could potentially take weeks to clear “ a spokesman said .

 

[Adios]

Why are you buying anything Chinese?
We are sufering teh biggest collapse n our standard of living and curtailment of freedoms because of the Chinese. Any time you buy from china you are supporting a despotic government that has inflicted death on millions on acount of their behaviour.

I agree entirely and I put a lot of effort into avoiding chinese made but sadly some things are only made there now.

Hopefully this is more reason for people to make and buy more locally.

 

[Stemar]

Another piece of vital information

 

[Adios]

oh dear. Now what...

Attempts to free ship in Suez Canal fail despite high tide - follow live updates

 

[Adios]

Was wind to blame for grounded ship?

The circumstances that led up to the vessel becoming wedged in the muddy canal bank are unclear and conflicting.
Initial investigations suggest the vessel grounded due to strong wind.
Bernhard Schulte Shipmanagement, the “technical manager” the vessel, said strong winds were thought to be the primary culprit.
The company maintains that “initial investigations rule out any mechanical or engine failure as a cause of the grounding”.
However, on Saturday, the head of the Suez Canal Authority told journalists that strong winds were “not the only cause” for the Ever Given running aground.
Lieutenant General Osama Rabei said an investigation is ongoing but did not rule out human or technical error.
At least one initial report suggested a “blackout” struck the vessel, which was carrying some 20,000 containers at the time of the incident.

Who stands to gain if the canal is blocked? China seems to be coming out on top with the trade disruption caused by their virus. Why not throw more spanners in the works and see what happens to the already more fragile western economies?

 

[westernman]

The Suez Canal chief has said that

"Technical or human errors" may have been behind stranding of the Ever Given.

Well I suppose that rules out "act of God".

The latest re-floating attempt seems to have failed. So I guess it might be quite some time before this is sorted.

Can we expect a large increase in fuel costs at the pump in Europe?
And shortages of some things?

Suez canal: Syria 'rations' fuel as efforts to free stuck ship fail

 

[Kukri]

Evergreen vessel shifts, giving hope that the Suez could be unblocked soon - Splash247

 

[Scotsailor]

I just heard on the radio that there are 300 ships held up … so why don’t they just chain them all together and pull this one out? Like a tug of war … not altogether serious ?

 

[dunedin]

Intriguing BBC report on this - “the tugboats managed to move it 30 degrees in two directions” - Suez Canal: Effort to refloat wedged container ship continues

I wonder in which TWO directions? I assume they didn’t try to spin the bows 30 degrees to starboard - that would be a tad tricky, as well as unhelpful.
And if the bow was successfully swung 30 degrees to port (which would seem a huge shift), hopefully the whole ship moved together - otherwise somebody on here would be leaping in with yet another posting of a weird video “the bow came off”

 

[Tomahawk]

What is always noticeable is how things go from stuck to not stuck so very fast. Right up until she actually starts moving there is almost nothing to show for the efforts

 

[Concerto]

Evergreen vessel shifts, giving hope that the Suez could be unblocked soon - Splash247

It does seem there is quite a strong flow of water flowing through the canal from the video in Splash247.

 

[Tomahawk]

Intriguing BBC report on this - “the tugboats managed to move it 30 degrees in two directions” - Suez Canal: Effort to refloat wedged container ship continues

I wonder in which TWO directions? I assume they didn’t try to spin the bows 30 degrees to starboard - that would be a tad tricky, as well as unhelpful.
And if the bow was successfully swung 30 degrees to port (which would seem a huge shift), hopefully the whole ship moved together - otherwise somebody on here would be leaping in with yet another posting of a weird video “the bow came off”

Pull the stern 30 degrees to starboard then push it back to loosen up the soil around the bow.. do it a few times .. then one final pull and she comes free.

Somehwere there is a vid of the tugs pulling the box ship off the bank in the Schelte a few years back.. They yawed it sideways back and forth then it suddenly came off the mud like a cork out of a bottle

 

[westernman]

How did the containers' dimensions get agreed upon?
I find it amazing that there is just one world wide standard.

 

[Allan]

I just heard on the radio that there are 300 ships held up … so why don’t they just chain them all together and pull this one out? Like a tug of war … not altogether serious ?

How about sending three ships from the north, tight together, and three from the south? Get the timing correct and the wave from each end would lift the ship! No more serious than the one above!
Allan

 

[Easticks28]

 

[fisherman]

How about sending three ships from the north, tight together, and three from the south? Get the timing correct and the wave from each end would lift the ship! No more serious than the one above!
Allan

Don't laugh: mates were in Penzance with a bank to get over, tide making too slowly. I said charge at it then when she sniffs the bottom, stop. They did, the stern wave mounted over the bank and washed them over. It became standard practice.
Bro was on HMS Wizard going into Georgetown to help with the rioting. There was very little water, the stern wave was alongside the ship.

 

[Rappey]

How did the containers' dimensions get agreed upon?

The idea of using some type of shipping container was not completely novel. Boxes similar to modern containers had been used for combined rail- and horse-drawn transport in England as early as 1792. The US government used small standard-sized containers during the Second World War, which proved a means of quickly and efficiently unloading and distributing supplies. However, in 1955, Malcom P. McLean, a trucking entrepreneur from North Carolina, USA, bought a steamship company with the idea of transporting entire truck trailers with their cargo still inside. He realized it would be much simpler and quicker to have one container that could be lifted from a vehicle directly on to a ship without first having to unload its contents.

His ideas were based on the theory that efficiency could be vastly improved through a system of "intermodalism", in which the same container, with the same cargo, can be transported with minimum interruption via different transport modes during its journey. Containers could be moved seamlessly between ships, trucks and trains. This would simplify the whole logistical process and, eventually, implementing this idea led to a revolution in cargo transportation and international trade over the next 50 years.

 

[Adios]

Intriguing BBC report on this - “the tugboats managed to move it 30 degrees in two directions” - Suez Canal: Effort to refloat wedged container ship continues

thats clearly just been reported wrong.

I just clicked on the tweet it was reported from

https://twitter.com/x/status/1375897509302824962

 

[Adios]

The idea of using some type of shipping container was not completely novel. Boxes similar to modern containers had been used for combined rail- and horse-drawn transport in England as early as 1792. The US government used small standard-sized containers during the Second World War, which proved a means of quickly and efficiently unloading and distributing supplies. However, in 1955, Malcom P. McLean, a trucking entrepreneur from North Carolina, USA, bought a steamship company with the idea of transporting entire truck trailers with their cargo still inside. He realized it would be much simpler and quicker to have one container that could be lifted from a vehicle directly on to a ship without first having to unload its contents.

His ideas were based on the theory that efficiency could be vastly improved through a system of "intermodalism", in which the same container, with the same cargo, can be transported with minimum interruption via different transport modes during its journey. Containers could be moved seamlessly between ships, trucks and trains. This would simplify the whole logistical process and, eventually, implementing this idea led to a revolution in cargo transportation and international trade over the next 50 years.

Ah thats why its a global standard then. If it was invented somewhere else the Americans would have a different version.