DJE
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Perhaps. But we would know that we were British mariners fightng for our ancient freedoms.
Studland - RYA Response
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Ian_Rob
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Was the RYA’s decision ‘not to challenge the scientific basis for action’ put to a vote of the members or was it decision taken by a committee or worse still by one or two officers? How representative is this decision of the actual opinions of the membership. We’re they asked?
ryanroberts
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Accepting NE / MMO framing means they have already 'lost' the argument, assuming their environmental representatives ever intended to fight it in the first place. Which is probably unlikely given they will move in the same circles as those they are shadow boxing with.
doug748
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A had a telephone call today from a very pleasant young lady who asked if I was aware my RYA membership had lapsed.
I told her why, she sounded disappointed but not in the least surprised. If your membership is falling due it might be as well to await the call.
I told her why, she sounded disappointed but not in the least surprised. If your membership is falling due it might be as well to await the call.
ryanroberts
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The CA appear to be actually trying to represent us at least
penfold
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This popped up on my Zuckersucker page; questionnaire from/on behalf of Natural England about coastal sailing, although it's obviously connected to this and MCZs generally. Fill your boots.
mainsail1
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Sorry, that is the most useless survey I have ever looked at. No way would I waste time trying to complete it.
Concerto
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What is the point of the survey? Sounds like one organised by a student who has never got his/her feet wet.
penfold
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That may be the objective.
Don't allow their agenda to dictate your answers; be creative.
Concerto
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Most memorable event could be anchoring at Studland. Repeated mentioning of Studland could be worthwhile.
JumbleDuck
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The CA aren't principally concerned with making money out of the sailing community.
Sandy
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I have seen better undergraduate questionares!
penfold
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It probably has been prepared by a undergrad intern; sociologists gotta eat too.
DJE
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So that's what passes for science at NE.
Boathook
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Quite handy. I filled it in and just about or even managed to mention Studland in every reply along with words such as shelter, peaceful, easy to enter, etc. Also added a picture for good affect.
RivalRedwing
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Do it, surveys like this can form the basis of plans and strategies wayyyy beyond their superficial appearance
dgadee
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Yes, I got Studland into every answer.
Concerto
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These were my answers.
1. Peace and solitude, facing the weather whilst challenging your own skills.
2. Nothing.
Boating is a sport that encompasses people from different backgrounds to participate. Young and old, male and female, rich or poor, as individuals or small groups or families. Boating covers everything from rowing boats, sailing dinghies, fishing boats, paddle boards, windsurfing, kite sailing, personal water craft at the lower level through speedboats, canal barges, to family motor boats and sailing boats, right up to mega yachts. There are boats over 100 years old still in use, yet others buy new boats, so you do not need to be rich to go boating.
We all appreciate the water we use and try do do the least damage to the environment. There is no other sport that makes you rely on your own skills like boating. Coastal boating is a combination of knowing wind, tides, navigation, collision regulations, understanding weather changes, not to mention trying to make your boat perform correctly. A powerboat becomes uncomfortable in rougher weather and may have to slow down. Sailing boats come in many forms from pure racing machines through family cruisers used for holidays, to budget old craft nearing the end of their useful life - something for everyone.
You also need many skills to maintain a boat in a good useable condition from painting, polishing, engine servicing, understanding electrics and electronics, plumbing systems including unblocking marine toilets, bottled gas cooking, rigging checks, mending skills like sail repairs, ropework, leak tracing, safety equipment, etc, etc, etc. If something goes wrong whilst at sea, it is up to you to solve the problem and only call for assistance if required.
Boating is a very inclusive sport and nothing else could possibly compare.
3.
4. Sailing singlehanded under spinnaker in about 25 knots of wind in bright sunshine off Brighton. Taken by a Dutchman on 7 July 2017, who later gave it to me. It is almost impossible to get a good photo of your own boat. Having been sailing since 1965, I cannot think of a better active photo to show sailing off.
I could have shown my boat anchored in Studland Bay, but this place is under threat based on flawed science saying anchoring is causing damage to the eelgrass beds which ignores independant photographic evidence covering 60 years showing a large increase in area of eelgrass. The "science" is based on international seagrass studies, not UK eelgrass. Eelgrass is tougher and more virilent than seagrass. This flawed science is the biggest threat to anchoring in Studland and other places in the UK and is a massive threat to boating. Nearly 4 million people (7.3% of the population) participate in boating. Not a group that should be ignored.
The final question I did not save befofe hitting the next page, only to find you could not then go back. I linked in the video of sailing under spinnaker on the same day as the photograph.
It should give Rhys Madden on rhys.madden@naturalengland.org.uk something to think about.
Boathook
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Filled it in twice now. Do or will they look at IP address when they go through the questionnaire? I hope not ...!
penfold
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Even if they do an IP look-up a proxy or VPN should fox them easily enough.