Gunfleet
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Re: How things have changed
You too! Only it's 26 ft not 28.
You too! Only it's 26 ft not 28.
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ROSSCO
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we are into our 2nd season on our 1st boat which is a Bavaria 31. Our children were the same age when we started and have found it an ideal boat to begin with. We have done 2 holidays across the channel and spent most of the summer weekends on her. She is set up for short handed sailing with furling main / autohelm etc which I think is a must in your situation as there will be times when one of you will have to deal with the children while the other is handling the boat. I doubt you would be able to do that on the Moody. We now feel confident to move up to something larger and have put our boat on the market .
pkb
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Perhaps mine is one of the comments you had in mind. I have looked at the new Moody's including the 38 and 42 and I was amazed, even on the 42, at the small size of the saloon relative to the size of the boat. Centre cockpits are greedy in terms of usable volume and saloons tend to be pushed forward, past the point of greatest beam to where the hull begins to narrow. Aft cockpits on boats of this size allow the saloon to be sited where the beam is greatest. I admit that on the Moody 46 this isn't an issue but at that size the designer has much more freedom. There is a valid argument that centre cockpits are fine on large boats such as the 46but something of a nonsense on anything much smaller.
Peter
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Different strokes for different folks...I can seat 6-8 in comfort for dinner and thats all I need.
Pete
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Steve101
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Re: Follow your dream 
Thaks for the reply. I am a genuine newby! I was recommended the laser by a younger sailing buddy who has no family, the Wayfarer is a name that seems to crop up a lot so it looks like I'll be taking a look at those too. As for the rest of the post you made I can only assume that you have taken a look at my Bio or you by some strange coincidence know me......You have me at a disadvantage my man!
Thaks for the reply. I am a genuine newby! I was recommended the laser by a younger sailing buddy who has no family, the Wayfarer is a name that seems to crop up a lot so it looks like I'll be taking a look at those too. As for the rest of the post you made I can only assume that you have taken a look at my Bio or you by some strange coincidence know me......You have me at a disadvantage my man!
cynthia
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Re: Follow your dream
Go for it. IMHO the best bit of advice here is to charter before you commit. If you're sailing in the UK charter in the UK - after a couple of weeks, you'll know if you're on the right boat or not!
Go for it. IMHO the best bit of advice here is to charter before you commit. If you're sailing in the UK charter in the UK - after a couple of weeks, you'll know if you're on the right boat or not!
Gunfleet
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Re: Pontoon height
1/2 metre higher? I'd have to climb up!
1/2 metre higher? I'd have to climb up!
david_e
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Re: Get the Moody.
as long as you are happy to accept that you might well prang, scratch, dent your new boat then go for the Moody. Half (or even more) of your time will be spent in the marina berth so you might as well enjoy the extra comfort and 'Berth Cred' that you will get.
You will also avoid the hassle of resale and the depreciation you mention and if you start with a 32 you might not upgrade to a bigger berth slot/finger that you need when you change boat to a 38. What I mean is that our Marina has berths up to 10m and then above 10m.
Finally, you will be buying English!
as long as you are happy to accept that you might well prang, scratch, dent your new boat then go for the Moody. Half (or even more) of your time will be spent in the marina berth so you might as well enjoy the extra comfort and 'Berth Cred' that you will get.
You will also avoid the hassle of resale and the depreciation you mention and if you start with a 32 you might not upgrade to a bigger berth slot/finger that you need when you change boat to a 38. What I mean is that our Marina has berths up to 10m and then above 10m.
Finally, you will be buying English!
hutch
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I have read all the responses and am sure you are more confused now than you were before you started.
Be honest with yourself - how often will you sail? I am amazed/horrified at the amount of capital tied up in boats in this country that are used very infrequently - visit any marina at any weekend and probably 90% plus of the boats are not in use.
Charter is the answer. Then, if after a couple of years you are committed, buy. But buy the largest boat you can afford/cope with! Size does matter! And once you have mastered the "black" art, it ain't so difficult. Common sense must prevail at all times - it is always better to err on the side of safety! The family will appreciate the extra space.
The other advantage of chartering - you can go charter in the Med, the Caribbean, South East Asia, Australia, New Zealand, etc. And sailing is so much more fun in good weather - and sunshine, a commodity this country is short of!
But do do the courses - at least upto Coastal Skipper.
Be honest with yourself - how often will you sail? I am amazed/horrified at the amount of capital tied up in boats in this country that are used very infrequently - visit any marina at any weekend and probably 90% plus of the boats are not in use.
Charter is the answer. Then, if after a couple of years you are committed, buy. But buy the largest boat you can afford/cope with! Size does matter! And once you have mastered the "black" art, it ain't so difficult. Common sense must prevail at all times - it is always better to err on the side of safety! The family will appreciate the extra space.
The other advantage of chartering - you can go charter in the Med, the Caribbean, South East Asia, Australia, New Zealand, etc. And sailing is so much more fun in good weather - and sunshine, a commodity this country is short of!
But do do the courses - at least upto Coastal Skipper.
vyv_cox
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Re: Pontoon height
We did, too. Instead of the usual step or jump down it was a small step up. But the finger pontoon was well fitted with side planks so it was not a problem so far as the fenders were concerned. Made a fantastic difference to alongside life.
We did, too. Instead of the usual step or jump down it was a small step up. But the finger pontoon was well fitted with side planks so it was not a problem so far as the fenders were concerned. Made a fantastic difference to alongside life.
Whiskey2
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Hi Steve, We started sailing in feb' this year after doing a course with southern sailing. I come to sailing from aviation so certain tasks like navigation and reading the weather i find easy(ish) We went down the same road as you are taking and ended up with a Moody 27 for ease of handling, resale value, space inside and solid construction it is hard to beat. It has been great fun learning to sail her and this forum is an amazing aid. We are sailing her in france this winter and then we will look to buy bigger next year with a view to over wintering in the Canarie's.
(we have a seasonal business). Have fun, Mel.
(we have a seasonal business). Have fun, Mel.
Laurin
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I started sailing 2 years ago having absolutely no previous experience (Not even dinghy sailing). Thought you might be interested in how quickly I felt confident:
My first trip was 5 days sailing in Scotland (August), though I have to admit I didn't learn too much. Following this I did about 3 weekends away, half a dozen Sunday morning races, and a whole lot of reading before doing my Day Skipper Practical in Feb. With hindsight I think a little more experience would have helped me get more out of this.
I then spent pretty much the whole summer sailing, most weekends, and 2 weeks holiday, doing a mixture of cruising and racing. Mid summer I took a boat out as skipper with 5 friends, 4 of who knew which bits of rope to pull and could navigate. It was a little nerve wracking but ok. In October I took some more friends out for a weeks sailing in Scotland, and by the end of this I was begining to feel confident.
This year I have the use of a centre cocpit Van der Staat 36. Would guess that this is similar weight to the Moody you are considering. She has taken a bit of getting used to but I now find handling her fine. I also sail 2 up with my Boyfriend without any trouble, but we don't have any kids to entertain.
When coming alongside I always take the wheel and blokie jumps off and ties her up. We find this works best as he has longer legs and is stronger.... never did understand why most couples tend to do things the other way round!
Might be a good idea to charter next year and buy the year after, alternatively charter lots between now and delivery date.
Hope this helps.
My first trip was 5 days sailing in Scotland (August), though I have to admit I didn't learn too much. Following this I did about 3 weekends away, half a dozen Sunday morning races, and a whole lot of reading before doing my Day Skipper Practical in Feb. With hindsight I think a little more experience would have helped me get more out of this.
I then spent pretty much the whole summer sailing, most weekends, and 2 weeks holiday, doing a mixture of cruising and racing. Mid summer I took a boat out as skipper with 5 friends, 4 of who knew which bits of rope to pull and could navigate. It was a little nerve wracking but ok. In October I took some more friends out for a weeks sailing in Scotland, and by the end of this I was begining to feel confident.
This year I have the use of a centre cocpit Van der Staat 36. Would guess that this is similar weight to the Moody you are considering. She has taken a bit of getting used to but I now find handling her fine. I also sail 2 up with my Boyfriend without any trouble, but we don't have any kids to entertain.
When coming alongside I always take the wheel and blokie jumps off and ties her up. We find this works best as he has longer legs and is stronger.... never did understand why most couples tend to do things the other way round!
Might be a good idea to charter next year and buy the year after, alternatively charter lots between now and delivery date.
Hope this helps.