SSB/VHF licensing

Re: What time is it Eccles?

Sheppards quote £1200 - Not sure how the channel islands work but I assume you could have M802 shipped there from West - shipping is probably around £60 - thats what I paid to get my present M710 to Djbouti

But you would export one to me in Gibraltar, Canaries, Ceuta Tunisia I think?
 
So ships license for a ham?

Here is a genuine question that maybe the wise amongst you can answer please;

If you were a fully licensed ham operator (either full UK, or US license which I understand is recognised as equivilent in the UK), and have a ham fitted on a boat, do you also need a ships radio license for it as you would a marine SSB? Or is having the full ham operators certificate sufficent?

I appreciate that you would probably already have a ships radio licence for the VHF anyway, so perhaps the question is, should the ham radio be listed on the ships radio license, or is it only for VHF, marine SSB, epirbs etc?

Thanks,

Anthony
 
Re: What time is it Eccles?

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Sheppards quote £1200 - Not sure how the channel islands work but I assume you could have M802 shipped there from West - shipping is probably around £60 - thats what I paid to get my present M710 to Djbouti

But you would export one to me in Gibraltar, Canaries, Ceuta Tunisia I think?

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We don't do direct sales but via our dealers we would yes.

Channel Island buy through us here.

Regards
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

European rules for SSB apply to EC. Channel Islands are not part of EC. If you are prepared to register your boat in the Channel Islands, can you have any SSB transceiver you want on board? effectively circumventing present EC SSB restrictions...........
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

According to Mike and Jon, you wouldn't even be entitled to LISTEN to the marine bands with it!
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

personally i wouldn't listen to anything iCOM say either!

seen that advert for their new submersible VHF on YBW?

ok, sound might travel better under water but have you tried speaking on one underwater? downright harzardous and should be banned i say!
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

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According to Mike and Jon, you wouldn't even be entitled to LISTEN to the marine bands with it!

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You seem to be missing the WHOLE point here John.

This is not Mike and I saying this, its the law.
We are just trying to make all aware of the real facts and not just hear say!.

You as a licenced ham would hate it if every cab firm started to use 2m for their business.
You, of this I am sure, would be one of the first on the phone to Ofcom reading the riot act.

As I said Mike and I are just advising you of the facts, if you choose to ignore them then that is your choice.
We feel it is better that you are informed.

Regards
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

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personally i wouldn't listen to anything iCOM say either!

seen that advert for their new submersible VHF on YBW?

ok, sound might travel better under water but have you tried speaking on one underwater? downright harzardous and should be banned i say!

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Nice one Mental....brought a smile to my face.


Regards
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

If I understand Mike and Jon correctly for £25 you can register your boat in the channel Islands - fit and operate ANY SSB or Ham set you want without further problems or licence issues.

Not pay license fees.

Not need operators licence(s)

Still fly a British Ensign.

Still be insured by a British Insurance co.

What is there against such a move? What is the catch 22
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

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If I understand Mike and Jon correctly for £25 you can register your boat in the channel Islands - fit and operate ANY SSB or Ham set you want without further problems or licence issues.


The way I understand it.

There will still be a licence fee, Islands must have one!

You can fit any radio SSB or Ham from anywhere.
Be worth checking if there are any starnge rules out there.
So you SHOULD be able to legally fit the Icom M802 for example.

You still can't legally use a ham set for marine.
You can use a marine set for ham but not both.

This is all to the best of my knowlegde and reasearch.
May not be 100% but am sure Mike will pick up the bits that are wrong!

Regards
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

The catch is that in at least one case you must be primarily resident in the place...

Charles
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

Charles hi,

from Mike's post that does not appear to be the case:-

A small ship may be registered if it is owned by one or more of the following persons who are ordinarily resident in the Bailiwick of Guernsey:


(a) British Citizens

(b) British Dependant Territories citizens; British Overseas citizens; persons who under the British Nationality Act 1961 are British subjects; persons who under the Hong Kong (British Nationality) Order are British Nationals Overseas, and

(c) Commonwealth citizens not falling within the above paragraphs.


there has to be a catch but it's not that! What are the rules for keeping a Channel Islands registered craft in the EU? Can that be the problem...

Can this be the answer to importing compliance problems - if this is right we will all be flying CI ensigns!!!!!
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

<<ordinarily resident in the Bailiwick of Guernsey>> is the catch. I think Jersey doesn't have such a rule, though. How cheery French customs might be about an EU resident owning a non-EU boat and sailing it in their waters is another matter. If it's covered by the rules I bet they'll just start to pick holes in your documents (rueful one-time French resident speaking here).
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

yes - sorry. Not permanently resident, but ordinarily resident - ie resident for 100+ days of the year. Not sure the amount, and too lazy to go look for it.

Puts me out of the running because I am ordinarily resident in london (surely that is not the Bailiwick of Guernsey) - what is a Bailiwick anyway?

later
Charles
 
Re: So ships license for a ham?

So john,

>>
. How cheery French customs might be about an EU resident owning a non-EU boat and sailing it in their waters is another matter
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Are there rules about this thing?

If I register my boat in South Africa (and buy a non CE radio) and then sail in the EU do I have a problem if I am resident in UK, or if even worse, I suceed in my citizenship application, and am have dual nationality - ie UK and RSA?

This may be something I need to investigate.

Cheers
Charles
 
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