This is simply the common 90/180 Schengen visa for 3rd countries, which UK citizens are currently exempt from getting. When ETIAS is implemented, think ESTA in the US, UK citizens will currently need one of those to enter Schengen. Your quite right that individual countries can offer longer stays if they wish, but those often come with strings attached
Who issues this common 90/180 Schengen visa for 3rd countries
Brussels or individual EU countries and does it authorise movement across national bordersIe external agencies authorising access to sovereign countries.
Yes, it's often a bit of motoring close in to the Moroccan shore or a bit of a dog leg out to Madeira. I allow an extra day or two for that. ?
Now that's a place with a lot of paperwork and officials. Plus a diver who checks underneath your boat. And a guy who goes through your fresh food for banned stuff. And takes ashore what's been confiscated. ?Just keep on going downwind - You'll get back to Europe eventually, only via the Galapagos
Lol about the “look at me!” That would not be our style even when legit ?We are CDN and buying in europe to save all the well noted problems you mentioned with a Brit boat. Phew! We will go through whatever registration and training for that,and ship the boat if we need, to to hunker down in Spain for the winter sorting out our boat etc. How I understand the legal path is that a visa with a residency like the Spanish non lucrative visa would require us to be in Spain 6 months but then give us access to the rest of Europe for the other 6 months so we would not have to do the 3 month hop. I think! Because I have yet to hear from anyone who has done it this way. ??Must admit I have no knowledge of this Schengen Zone Visa. I thought individual countries control their own boarders and issue visas and residency accordingly.
As I understand it, at present, unless you are an EU citizen or resident in an EU country, then in EU eyes, the 90/180 rule is absolute. Of course, countries control their own boarders so there may be some wriggle room, depending on the country. Can’t see how any visa issued by the EU fits into this. Any links available
The post above then drifts into boat registration and then sailing qualifications.
Grouping these very separate subject together nearly always leads to confusion.
Bring VAT liability into the mix and it gets even more interesting.
As I understand it the OP wants to cross Europe and spend some time in the Med in power cruiser. They are not residents in an EU country and the boat will remain British registered so they will be able to continue operate with an RYA ICC but may need a cevini.
Basic rule - keep it all as simple and straight forward as possible and whilst adhering to the law, don’t rush around shouting, “Look at me.”
In many countries officials would rather not know what the letter of the law is but if asked they will give their opinion and you may have just burnt your boats.
Finally, my observations are based on time mainly spent in Portugal, which as we all know is not in the Med.
Some countries have “bilateral agreements” on the books to offer an extra 3 months to some countries but what we are learning is that many are not inclined to agree to them any more. I have yet to hear of a single person who got an extension.
Lol about the “look at me!” That would not be our style even when legit ?We are CDN and buying in europe to save all the well noted problems you mentioned with a Brit boat. Phew! We will go through whatever registration and training for that,and ship the boat if we need, to to hunker down in Spain for the winter sorting out our boat etc. How I understand the legal path is that a visa with a residency like the Spanish non lucrative visa would require us to be in Spain 6 months but then give us access to the rest of Europe for the other 6 months so we would not have to do the 3 month hop. I think! Because I have yet to hear from anyone who has done it this way. ??
We would like to initially liveaboard (lets see how that goes! ?) and cruise the coast and canals (again, we’ll see). The official link for the Schengen visa is pretty clear and so we think its not for us. Schengen Visa - Comprehensive information about Europe Visa
There is alot to learn so we appreciate the members weighing in!
The EU has confirmed that British citizens will be eligible for ETIAS when it is launched at the end of 2022. This means that UK nationals will not need a visa for short stays in Europe after Brexit but an ETIAS visa waiver will be required.
News to me as I thought Brexit the non-visa agreement was permanent
ETIAS is a visa waiver,but will need to be applied for.So once ETIAS is implemented, British will require visas
ETIAS for British Citizens - ETIAS.COM - like I said, similar to the ESTA Visa waiver systemSo once ETIAS is implemented, British will require visas
Any British citizen that wishes to enter Europe for over 90 days, or for other purposes than those allowed under the ETIAS program will need to apply for a Schengen visa.So once ETIAS is implemented, British will require visas
The're are no long stay Schengen visa. Any country in Schengen can issue a long stay national visa but you are still restricted to 90/180 in all other Schengen countries
The Police in Spain are now rounding up and deporting people without the correct visas/documents. You get 15 days notice to go.
I dont know of anyone being rounded up and deported
That will also be the French, Dutch or anyone who doesn't have correct papers/or has not registered.