Southampton Boat Show 2021 Covid test to enter regardless of Vaccination status

[LONG_KEELER]

It's a shame that many people will now decide not to attend because of the agro.

The industry could have done with a lift. One assumes the Council had a hand in it . They tried very hard to make it happen last year.

I decided not to wear a mask unless asked to do so. This happened at a bank this week. In other shops and business nearly everyone still wore a mask . Wish I could find some decent peer reviewed impartial science for continuing to do so.

About 150k attended the F1 at Silverstone . Wondering if they had any entry conditions
similar to SIBS.

 

[Concerto]

How do you entervia the water? I was under the impression that 'security' stopped that type of entry.

Concerto is the Westerly Owners Association boat at the show. Every other boat at the show marina will come by water, so the same applies.

 

[smert]

The vast majority of boats at the Boat Show will have arrived several days before and will be delivered by a crew who will then depart as soon as the boat is moored, rather than hanging around to visit the show, so there won't be any show visitors arriving by water (also no visitor mooring spaces!)

 

[JumbleDuck]

It's a shame that many people will now decide not to attend because of the agro.

Will they? Pick up a free test from the chemist, take two minutes to swap throat and nose, wait thirty minutes, scan QR code, enter "positive2, "negative" or "failed", job done. It takes a lot less time than brushing your teeth properly. My crew is at a summer course and has to do one every day, and nobody there seems to find it a dreadful imposition.

Sailing relevance: I believe we are still asked to test before visiting Scottish island communities. It's no big deal for that either.

 

[NormanB]

Why should entry to the Southampton Boat Show be more regulated than entry to your local pub? What's the danger in Southampton?

You are Keir Starmer and I claim my £5.?

 

[NormanB]

From the Boat show website
"To gain entry to the show this year, all visitors will be required to provide evidence of a negative NHS lateral flow test (LFT) taken within the 48 hours prior to arrival at the show. This applies to all visitors, regardless of vaccination and immunity status.
Once you have conducted your NHS lateral flow test (LFT) within 48 hours of your attendance, you must log your negative result via the gov.uk website here.
You will then receive a text message, email or notification on the NHS app which you will need to present to the team on entry to the show."
Keeping you safe - Southampton International Boat Show

A very sensible measure in my opinion. Many of those attending will be of working age and this measure alone will reduce the risk (not eliminate) risk of both contracting C19 and perhaps more subtly being pinged and instructed to isolate.

 

[lustyd]

Will they?

Yup, I’ve certainly changed my mind as a result. I was planning to go to look at fake teak decking and select a supplier among other things.
It has nothing to do with how hard the tests are, I have tests and use them occasionally (I never post the result, that’s private info) and will have my second jab this week. It’s the loss of freedom and privacy. I’m voting with my feet for a world where I’m not tracked or restricted in unreasonable ways and where unthinkable quantities of single use in non-recyclable plastic are created for no discernible benefit. Covid passports are being used as a back door to the big brother wet dream of politicians of creating a permanent tracking and ID system. We need to stand up to that sort of thing for countless well documented reasons. Perhaps I’ll be on the losing side and won’t be able to go anywhere or do anything, but that’s fine by me, I won’t need to write a “first they came for…” type poem of regret. If this continues to get worse I plan to make bookings at restaurants and be refused entry too in an effort to make lost profit drive reason into the system. You may think I’m being unreasonable, that’s fine by me but I’m planning to be an exceptionally squeaky wheel on this matter.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Yup, I’ve certainly changed my mind as a result. I was planning to go to look at fake teak decking and select a supplier among other things.
It has nothing to do with how hard the tests are, I have tests and use them occasionally (I never post the result, that’s private info) and will have my second jab this week. It’s the loss of freedom and privacy.

Your choice, of course, but I find it hard to get worked up over this any more than the need for some people to show ID to buy booze and the need for others to show a blue badge to use disabled parking spaces. The Southampton Boat Show organisers have the freedom to choose who they allow in, and I suspect they will attract more than they drive away.

I'm thinking of visiting to talk refrigeration, and will certainly not go if this policy is not in place.

 

[longjohnsilver]

Can anyone explain why they ask you to bring your NHS vaccination certificate with you, if you have one, when their only requirement is a negative covid test?

 

[JumbleDuck]

Can anyone explain why they ask you to bring your NHS vaccination certificate with you, if you have one, when their only requirement is a negative covid test?

Because for a period after vaccination, it causes a positive test result, so if you have recently been jabbed (14 days, they say) a vaccination certificate explains why you can't produce a negative test result.

 

[lustyd]

the need for some people to show ID to buy booze and the need for others to show a blue badge to use disabled parking spaces.

Both very different scenarios, neither of which allow or require the recording of your personal information or location. If the blue badge included full details of the specific disability for which it was provided, and every time it was used a location recorded then I might agree with you. It doesn't, because when those were designed there was a robust design phase taking such things into account. The same robust process which has previously prevented national IDs and tracking databases. This is their one opportunity to bypass that robust process and they know it, so fear is being used to further this agenda.
I would happily show my driving license to prove my age. I would not be happy for someone to take a copy of it when I did so. Neither would I be happy if every other time I showed it my license randomly suggested I was 15 years old and prevented me doing what I am entitled to do.

Will you be as happy when the system is extended to exclude people with STI's from pubs to curb that spread? How about keeping the fatties out of ice cream shops to protect them? It's a very steep and slippery slope that we do not want to get anywhere near. We've already reached a point where the government are implying that sovereignty of ones own body is no longer allowed - no jab no education, no travel, etc.

First they came for the students, and I did not speak out-
because I was not a student
Next they came for the obese, and I did not speak out-
because I was not obese
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me

 

[lustyd]

Because for a period after vaccination, it causes a positive test result, so if you have recently been jabbed (14 days, they say) a vaccination certificate explains why you can't produce a negative test result.

If that's the case the entire thing is a farce since those people could actually have covid!

 

[zoidberg]

It used to be one part of my 'sailing ritual'..... Earl's Court in winter, SIBS in summer.... meet up with my few friends at the Guinness stand, and now and then with Richard at the YBW stand for a cold beer and a freebie magazine.

I've never actually bought a boat at SIBS - and sold one, for an exhibitor.... but did buy lots of other odds and ends, including tins of Le Tonc year on year.

The world has changed - and not for the better.

 

[capnsensible]

I always used to think that those going to the Earls Court Boat Show on the underground whilst wearing a yellow sailing jacket and wellies should be barred from entry.

 

[oldmanofthehills]

I am going to 2 music festivals in August. Both ask for covid passport/ vaccine proof of lateral flow negative. My little sisters care home needs lateral flow. I like hearing music and seeing my sister so I comply - end of.

Gangways and stalls and boat cabins make the boat show a sometimes crowded outdoor event. Those of us vaccinated wont die if we get it, others might be less lucky and a positive test later from a chance infection here, will cause loss of wages or trade for many.

Covid will be with us for the next zillion years so developing some systematic caution is appropriate. We can ease restrictions once we have the full measure of this disease, but its early days yet.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Both very different scenarios, neither of which allow or require the recording of your personal information or location.

Neither does a security guard having a shufti at your phone as you go in through the gate.

We've already reached a point where the government are implying that sovereignty of ones own body is no longer allowed - no jab no education, no travel, etc.

Appropriate vaccines have been mandatory for some international travel for decades.

First they came for the students, and I did not speak out-
because I was not a student
Next they came for the obese, and I did not speak out-
because I was not obese
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me

They'll get me second, because I am obese. Sod the students.

 

[JumbleDuck]

If that's the case the entire thing is a farce since those people could actually have covid!

Sure, but the chance is quite low anyway, and allowing vaccination certificates enables responsible people to attend even when they might generate a false positive.

 

[longjohnsilver]

Sure, but the chance is quite low anyway, and allowing vaccination certificates enables responsible people to attend even when they might generate a false positive.

The website doesn’t say that. But it does state you need proof of a negative test to attend.

 

[lustyd]

Sure, but the chance is quite low anyway, and allowing vaccination certificates enables responsible people to attend even when they might generate a false positive.

See, right there you've decided that "responsible people" are the ones who took the experimental vaccine which is to this day not actually approved for use, rather than the people who weighed up the risks and decided to wait before putting their body at unnecessary risk. You're also suggesting "responsible people" have created over a billion pieces of single use, non recyclable plastic.
There are very, very good historical reasons why people have the fundamental freedom of choice with their own body. While I have chosen to have the vaccine, I do not put that much faith in the government or the pharmaceutical companies to tell the truth that I am happy to accept any and every requirement they dictate at face value.

 

[lustyd]

I am going to 2 music festivals in August. Both ask for covid passport/ vaccine proof of lateral flow negative.

No, you have tickets for two shows. Whether you're going is the luck of the draw based on whether your test decides to randomly show you as a false positive or not. Would you be so confident if they required negative tests for flu and cold? At this point both pose a similar danger and probably have higher numbers, we're just not testing for them.