gcwhite
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Have you got at least Day Skipper practical and theory; you need this as a minimum or a member of crew who is experienced to this standard.
South Coast Delivery Run.
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Wiggo
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Prettier, and better equiped (just) but the issue is likely to be fuel range crossing Lyme Bay
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Re: 24th
get a forecast for the 24th thursday then. bet it'll be crap!
get a forecast for the 24th thursday then. bet it'll be crap!
Wiggo
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Re: 24th
SE f4 for the 24th according to Accuweather. So a bid borderline for a first trip in a new 26 footer, maybe? But at least the wind will pushing you along. Could give some interesting wind over tide stuff through the forts with bad timing.
SE f4 for the 24th according to Accuweather. So a bid borderline for a first trip in a new 26 footer, maybe? But at least the wind will pushing you along. Could give some interesting wind over tide stuff through the forts with bad timing.
gcwhite
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And better restaurants particularly "New Angel"
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oldgit
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Hate to be a killjoy but...........
Is it really a good idea to go on an extended voyage in open waters in early spring with a totally untried piece of kit.Have you worked out how much the fuel is going to cost you vs a few hundred quid on the truck.Suspose you get stranded half way round.Can you be sure of the fuel consumption as opposed to what the manual ses.Recently a much loved former poster was left drifting "happily" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifwhen his brand new petrol boat failed a few moments after its launch.Fine 100 yards from shore.
It is your boat and you are responsible for it.Consider all and any advice carefully and that includes mine.It is your boat and you are responsible for it.
Is it really a good idea to go on an extended voyage in open waters in early spring with a totally untried piece of kit.Have you worked out how much the fuel is going to cost you vs a few hundred quid on the truck.Suspose you get stranded half way round.Can you be sure of the fuel consumption as opposed to what the manual ses.Recently a much loved former poster was left drifting "happily" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifwhen his brand new petrol boat failed a few moments after its launch.Fine 100 yards from shore.
It is your boat and you are responsible for it.Consider all and any advice carefully and that includes mine.It is your boat and you are responsible for it.
mirage
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Try the Pilgrim in Brixham.
whisper
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Train service not much kop though, albeit it's a pretty trip. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Wiggo
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Re: Hate to be a killjoy but...........
He has a point, you know...
There's a lot to be said for making the journey on your own bottom, but if it runs into a few weeks (as it can at this time of year with the weather), the costs can get silly (we paid £100 to leave ours in Lymington for 6 days, and that was a 'bargain'). Add in 150 gallons of petrol, and your train fares, and it may make sense to truck it. Or base yourself out of Brighton for three months until you may get more consistent weather.
That said, in the right conditions you could have a lot of fun doing it over several days. I think this one will be highly weather dependent.
I reckon if you're going to do it, see if you can get someone on board to help skipper, but get another boat along for support and backup.
He has a point, you know...
There's a lot to be said for making the journey on your own bottom, but if it runs into a few weeks (as it can at this time of year with the weather), the costs can get silly (we paid £100 to leave ours in Lymington for 6 days, and that was a 'bargain'). Add in 150 gallons of petrol, and your train fares, and it may make sense to truck it. Or base yourself out of Brighton for three months until you may get more consistent weather.
That said, in the right conditions you could have a lot of fun doing it over several days. I think this one will be highly weather dependent.
I reckon if you're going to do it, see if you can get someone on board to help skipper, but get another boat along for support and backup.
Solitaire
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Following our discussions on this the other week, I'd loved to have done it with you. But I'm now working so not as flexible as I was! I'll help with your passage planning if you like. Hamble to Brighton is about 50nms, I'm bringing a boat around to Brighton on Sunday with a new owner following doing his Level 2 certificate. Will be using the Looe channel. I just hope this "fog" don't stick around. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
oldgit
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One step at time ?
Its stuff like you need 15/20% reserve fuel and prob, the last 5 gallons is not usable anyway and try filling up in rough weather from cans,the stuff goes everywhere.....Course it could be dead calm!
Anyway mebbe less than 60 gallons available.Not sure what your consumption is 15/20 per hour?,around 4 hours per hop.That may have to include punching against 3 or 4 knot tide and on the nose wind.Add the weight of extra peeps/gear tools/liferafts.
Boat yards are full of up for sale craft foresaken by owners with confidence sapping early experiences.Chum sold his very nice T37 less than 6 months after purchase due to top secret weather related circumstances.
If you do decide to go good luck and enjoy the trip.
Its stuff like you need 15/20% reserve fuel and prob, the last 5 gallons is not usable anyway and try filling up in rough weather from cans,the stuff goes everywhere.....Course it could be dead calm!
Anyway mebbe less than 60 gallons available.Not sure what your consumption is 15/20 per hour?,around 4 hours per hop.That may have to include punching against 3 or 4 knot tide and on the nose wind.Add the weight of extra peeps/gear tools/liferafts.
Boat yards are full of up for sale craft foresaken by owners with confidence sapping early experiences.Chum sold his very nice T37 less than 6 months after purchase due to top secret weather related circumstances.
If you do decide to go good luck and enjoy the trip.
adey
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Re: One step at time ?
I understand where you're coming from but why would I try filling from cans in rough weather? If the wind and therefore tide are against me I'll just wait till it's not.
Sure there are pros and cons but if I just wanted to get from A to B as cheaply as possible I wouldn't have bought a boat.
Isn't some sense of adventure and achievement the reason most of you have boats?
By sticking to shortish (50mile) trips and only going in good weather should make it enjoyable and I'll learn as I go.
I have dayskipper theory but not practical that's why I'm here asking for help.
So, anyone up for a run from Brighton to Portsmouth on Thursday (24th)? Anyone got a clue what the weather's going to be doing.
I understand where you're coming from but why would I try filling from cans in rough weather? If the wind and therefore tide are against me I'll just wait till it's not.
Sure there are pros and cons but if I just wanted to get from A to B as cheaply as possible I wouldn't have bought a boat.
Isn't some sense of adventure and achievement the reason most of you have boats?
By sticking to shortish (50mile) trips and only going in good weather should make it enjoyable and I'll learn as I go.
I have dayskipper theory but not practical that's why I'm here asking for help.
So, anyone up for a run from Brighton to Portsmouth on Thursday (24th)? Anyone got a clue what the weather's going to be doing.
Wiggo
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Re: One step at time ?
forecasts this far out are bit hit and miss, but I saw SE f4 on accuweather.com
We have had a 23 footer and a 29 footer, so we've straddled you size-wise. I reckon a following f4 should be OK, but watch your tide times for wind over tide around Selsey Bill and going up the Solent.
A reasonable number of boltholes on this leg, and it should give you a better idea of fuel consumption.
forecasts this far out are bit hit and miss, but I saw SE f4 on accuweather.com
We have had a 23 footer and a 29 footer, so we've straddled you size-wise. I reckon a following f4 should be OK, but watch your tide times for wind over tide around Selsey Bill and going up the Solent.
A reasonable number of boltholes on this leg, and it should give you a better idea of fuel consumption.
whisper
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Re: One step at time ?
Well said.
Unfortunately I can't make it - lucky you - trouble with the 24th may be that it is a normal workday for most, I expect.
Have you used the boat at all, yourself? If not then a few short exploratory trips will help you to a) boost your confidence and b) get to know where everything is and what it does, on the water.
Well said.
Unfortunately I can't make it - lucky you - trouble with the 24th may be that it is a normal workday for most, I expect.
Have you used the boat at all, yourself? If not then a few short exploratory trips will help you to a) boost your confidence and b) get to know where everything is and what it does, on the water.
compie1
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Adey,
Done the trip in september from Brixham to Oostende (Belgium) done it in 3 trips due to weather conditions, worst for us was Lyme Bay the races at Bill of Portland, try to get as close as possible to the lighthouse to avoid the races there the sea is very calm, otherwise around the Isle of Whight by nothern route, def safest way longest part of the trip with nothing to see was from Selsey Bill to Beachy Head
stopovers would be Poole, Brixham the most anoying thing is comming back each time with the train takes very long if you know somebody to drive you back each lap would be great!
worth doing it, perhaps next summer if i have some spare time
If you use c-map i still have the routes on my pc send me a PM
Done the trip in september from Brixham to Oostende (Belgium) done it in 3 trips due to weather conditions, worst for us was Lyme Bay the races at Bill of Portland, try to get as close as possible to the lighthouse to avoid the races there the sea is very calm, otherwise around the Isle of Whight by nothern route, def safest way longest part of the trip with nothing to see was from Selsey Bill to Beachy Head
stopovers would be Poole, Brixham the most anoying thing is comming back each time with the train takes very long if you know somebody to drive you back each lap would be great!
worth doing it, perhaps next summer if i have some spare time
If you use c-map i still have the routes on my pc send me a PM
oldgit
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Re: One step at time ?
Sorry for appearing to be so negative and only mentioned the cans thing in case you were going to try to extend range.Getting some fuel consumption numbers would be a good idea from members of the forum with similer engines.
Sorry for appearing to be so negative and only mentioned the cans thing in case you were going to try to extend range.Getting some fuel consumption numbers would be a good idea from members of the forum with similer engines.
Wiggo
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Re: One step at time ?
Mmm. We had a Maxum 2300 with a 250hp 5.7 v8, and that could burn nearer 20 imperial gallons an hour if you were 'enthusiastic'. At cruise, you may want to think about 10-12 imperial gal/hr, but more if the weather deteriorates. The issue is that as your speed goes down in bigger seas, you take longer to get anywhere, and you burn more gph as you start to drop off the plane, so its a double whammy.
Anyway, your first leg is quite do-able, and will teach you a lot. Best of luck with it.
Mmm. We had a Maxum 2300 with a 250hp 5.7 v8, and that could burn nearer 20 imperial gallons an hour if you were 'enthusiastic'. At cruise, you may want to think about 10-12 imperial gal/hr, but more if the weather deteriorates. The issue is that as your speed goes down in bigger seas, you take longer to get anywhere, and you burn more gph as you start to drop off the plane, so its a double whammy.
Anyway, your first leg is quite do-able, and will teach you a lot. Best of luck with it.
gcwhite
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What is the Pilgrim like?
jimg
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Especially as you can get petrol from the fuel barge