sound reduction on an outboard engine

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Tried this query before with lots of speculation but no actual experience of tackling this problem BUT on saily forum so trying this where some real expertise may be found.

The problem is that my main engine (30HP Tohatsu 2 stroke on a catamaran) has only done about 500 hours/6 seasons and performs well and is totally reliable so I am reluctant to replace this but it is extremely noisy at all power levels except when trickling along at very low speeds.

Maybe I should have researched this better when I bought the engine and maybe it is inherent in this type or design of engine but the noise levels I think are at an ear damaging level. Possibly a 2 stroke outboard for an hours water skiing and half an hour out to a fishing site is ok but not perhaps on a coastal sailing boat where without wind or wind on the nose it may be necessary to motor for eight or ten hours at a stretch.

I have tried lining the outboard cover with sound insulation and lining the outboard housing without any real benefit. My question is whether the sound may be transmitted through the hull rather than directly into the air in which case perhaps a new mounting system may help. What I envisage is using hard rubber (similar to conveyor belting ) at the transom clamps and top hat style rubber bushes on each side of the bolts at the transom clamp bottoms.

These bushes are not cheap and before pursuing this (quite a job to lift the engine to get at the transom) I wonder whether others have been down this road and whether there was any success in reducing noise levels. I appreciate that probably every boat is different and it may be that having a number of large flat panels is about as bad/difficult as it gets. The alternative of about £3.5k for a new 4 stroke outboard is not appealing and if the problem is the engine/hull interface could I still have a problem with excessive noise, albeit at a lower level?
 
I know its quite a bit different but I had a rib that the leg would actually touch the transom and make a loud noise so make sure its not touching anything like that. Erm yea the transome clamps could be insulated with something like rubber or foam. ooh and ive PMd you.
 
As your only motoring slightly over 83 hours a season, what about foam ear plugs. The commercial guys use them every day.

Some of the large power-cat builders in Oz fitted 'sound shields' which were just flat panels in front of engines, which wasn't hard because the topsides were so high and the engine was partially obscured anyway. These were for engines around 150 to 225 hp though.
 
As your only motoring slightly over 83 hours a season, what about foam ear plugs. The commercial guys use them every day.

Some of the large power-cat builders in Oz fitted 'sound shields' which were just flat panels in front of engines, which wasn't hard because the topsides were so high and the engine was partially obscured anyway. These were for engines around 150 to 225 hp though.

It's not only the noise for us, we could just wear ear defenders but we feel that we are polluting the outdoor environment with so much noise!
 
Howsabout putting a hood over the engine, like on a bladerunner. you could make it from GRP and then pack in as much mass as you can (up to what you're happy carrying, boat handlingwise) eg laminate a layer of lead into the GRP
 
Howsabout putting a hood over the engine, like on a bladerunner. you could make it from GRP and then pack in as much mass as you can (up to what you're happy carrying, boat handlingwise) eg laminate a layer of lead into the GRP

Not familiar wth the Bladerunner but my boat does have a cover over the outboard engine and this is lined with standard acoustic foam the stuff with a soft layer covered with foil, a heavy centre layer and a layer the other side of medium density foam. That was a quick 60 quid down the drain without any improvement. The problem is this cover box is approx 30" x 35" x 30" and this probably just acts as a sound box.

Thanks for the suggestion.
 
Not familiar wth the Bladerunner but my boat does have a cover over the outboard engine and this is lined with standard acoustic foam the stuff with a soft layer covered with foil, a heavy centre layer and a layer the other side of medium density foam. That was a quick 60 quid down the drain without any improvement. The problem is this cover box is approx 30" x 35" x 30" and this probably just acts as a sound box.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Bladerunner is at icemarine.com. Below is a pic of the 35 showing the engines covered by a box. Is this the kind of box you already have over your engine (different size obviously)? I can't see why it wouldn't work, so long as it is attached fully all round to the boat so the only air leakage is backwards, like on the bladerunner. If it is not sealed and just dangled there so the sound can leak forwards then it will indeed be useless

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Hum, the tohatsu's a right ole racket. I had a 40hp ob for a while, swaped it cos such a bag of nails. Main thing is inlets and exhaust of course - ask mercury (same engines) for solutions?
 
Noise cancelling headphones and a tcm special sound system might be in order

No matter what is done, other than looking at exhaust, I don't think the environmental noise can be affected, just reducing what comes into the cockpit or boat, without some serious engineering work which wouldn't mean open back housing.
 
No matter what is done, other than looking at exhaust, I don't think the environmental noise can be affected, just reducing what comes into the cockpit or boat, without some serious engineering work which wouldn't mean open back housing.
Agreed, but in the OP boots I wouldn't worry about "polluting the outdoor environment" with a Tohatsu 30, in the first place.
Not as long as Teawby is around with his boat, at least... :D
 
Noise cancelling headphones and a tcm special sound system might be in order

No matter what is done, other than looking at exhaust, I don't think the environmental noise can be affected, just reducing what comes into the cockpit or boat, without some serious engineering work which wouldn't mean open back housing.

Yes the housing is open at the back to enable leg to be lifted and to steer. Really I am trying to work out what proportion of noise is air based which I can do little more about and what proportion is hull transmitted which I may set about trying to cure. If the hull proportion is small then I will be wasting my time. I suppose this is what I am trying to ascertain, before perhaps wasting my time and some money!
 
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