Biggles Wader
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If it is the OPs gear what would happen if the mooring broke and the illegal cat was wrecked?Could the owner come out of the woodwork and sue the OP?
Something has picked up my mooring!
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lw395
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Put it on eBay with all the other abandoned boats.
Most clubs have bylaws where anything not paying dues can be disposed of.
Use of mooring=acceptance of conditions.
Most clubs have bylaws where anything not paying dues can be disposed of.
Use of mooring=acceptance of conditions.
winsbury
New member
excellent suggestions - the RYA would be a good starting point, usually very helpful whether you are a member or not.
Mudisox
Well-known member
Time was that it was considered OK and friendly to use a mooring if it was vacant, and didn't have a tender attached. One stayed onboard ready to move if the owner/user of the mooring returned, and if one went ashore, you either cleared it with the local boatman, or left your contact details on it. I find it difficult to believe that no details at all are on the whole structure , or perhaps they were insecurely attached in this recent bad weather.
Everyone seems to have warmed themselves up with righteous indignation about this thread; a search of mooring issue threads provides background reading.
Perhaps fenders out and put it alongside yourself, with a note on it to contact you when they return may be best. You may be surprised with an apology and explanation with the possibility of extending their knowledge, and a new friend.
A case of "what's mine, no one else shall use" culture, seems to have entered this forum.
Friendly bunch these yachtsmen =========== aren't they.
Everyone seems to have warmed themselves up with righteous indignation about this thread; a search of mooring issue threads provides background reading.
Perhaps fenders out and put it alongside yourself, with a note on it to contact you when they return may be best. You may be surprised with an apology and explanation with the possibility of extending their knowledge, and a new friend.
A case of "what's mine, no one else shall use" culture, seems to have entered this forum.
Friendly bunch these yachtsmen =========== aren't they.
prv
Well-known member
With some exceptions, I think most people still do think that.
The crucial part is this, though:
Which the owners of the windmill have comprehensively failed to do.
Pete
Croak
New member
Why does the OP want to put his boat on his mooring, if he is selling it?
fireball
New member
Well - I think it's more a case of taken without permission and without contact details provided ... at which point most of us would be at least peeved ...
I have no problem with another boat on my mooring - provided they are willing and able to move off on my return - if appropriate they may even lie alongside for a bit ...
alahol2
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Had it been on my mooring, which is similarly owned by me on a rented 'spot', I would have donated a length of rope and a lump of concrete, towed it into a shallow water spot and re-moored it. It would be safe for at least several weeks like that and if the owners didn't return within that time I would cease to feel any responsibility.
TeamSpirit
Member
Well bit more than thoughtless as isn't this a criminal case of obtaining 'percunary advantage' receiving a service, in this case a mooring from someone else without authority without the intent to pay for said service and to do so is an offence and a matter for the plod. So make a formal complaint, pass the problen to them and they should at least impound the evidence pending enquiries. Any losses incurred are down to offenders.
theoldsalt
Active member
Would you also move someone's car parked in your reserved space ? The same principles apply. You have no authority or the owner's permission to move it and any damage or resultant costs will be entirely your responsibility. You will be in effect acting illegally. Just because someone else may have acted illegally is no reason or excuse for you to do so.
alahol2
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If I were able to move the parked car without breaking in then, yes, I would move it. It's not just my spot, it's my driveway. I don't believe I would be acting illegally in moving the vessel either.
fireball
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Would you move someone's car parked blocking your drive? What if there are double yellows outside your house and the only feasible parking available is an expensive P&Display ...
theoldsalt
Active member
People who legally remove cars (for example) have to be licenced (ie given authority and regulated) and be insured against liablities. For goodness sake people get real.
I certainly would very strongly object to £100,000 worth of boat being moved without authority. However I would be sympathetic if I had inconvenienced someone by using their mooring without knowing it and even offer to pay compensation if appropriate.
I certainly would very strongly object to £100,000 worth of boat being moved without authority. However I would be sympathetic if I had inconvenienced someone by using their mooring without knowing it and even offer to pay compensation if appropriate.
alahol2
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You say "get real" and then try to equate a scabby little Hoby cat with a £100,000 boat. Who's the real 'real'.
winsbury
New member
Cars are a completely different area of law to boats and bearing in mind significant changes to that law came into force as recently as September last year not everyone will be up to date with the new rules - for a summary see http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/consumer_e/consumer_cars_and_other_vehicles_e/consumer_driving_and_parking_e/consumer_wheel_clamping_e/when_your_car_can_be_clamped_or_towed_away.htm and http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/scotland/consumer_s/consumer_cars_and_other_vehicles_e/consumer_driving_and_parking_e/consumer_wheel_clamping_s/when_your_car_can_be_clamped_or_towed_away_s.htm
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prv
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I've helped to, once. The person whose drive was blocked is a mechanic, so he went and fetched some of those "skates" that you use for pushing cars around a workshop. (If you've not seen them, they have rollers that fit either side of the car wheel, you pump a little hydraulic footpump and the rollers move inwards and pick the wheel up, and then you can slide the car around using swivelling castors on the bottom.) We pushed the car down the road a bit and then sideways into a small turning arm. Not impossible to drive out of, but certainly awkward.
When I was a lot younger I watched my dad gather a bunch of blokes together from a nearby pub, to bodily shift a car that was parked where it shouldn't have been. Can't remember the details, something to do with the annual village carol-singing event.
The Warwick University rowing club had a penchant for picking up parked Minis and turning them round, but I don't condone that
Pete
AntarcticPilot
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I've helped to, once. The person whose drive was blocked is a mechanic, so he went and fetched some of those "skates" that you use for pushing cars around a workshop. (If you've not seen them, they have rollers that fit either side of the car wheel, you pump a little hydraulic footpump and the rollers move inwards and pick the wheel up, and then you can slide the car around using swivelling castors on the bottom.) We pushed the car down the road a bit and then sideways into a small turning arm. Not impossible to drive out of, but certainly awkward.
When I was a lot younger I watched my dad gather a bunch of blokes together from a nearby pub, to bodily shift a car that was parked where it shouldn't have been. Can't remember the details, something to do with the annual village carol-singing event.
The Warwick University rowing club had a penchant for picking up parked Minis and turning them round, but I don't condone that
Pete
I've seen it done too - "bouncing" a car works, even if the brakes are on, without the need for skates. Rough on the suspension, though!
gerryraby1
New member
Erm....why is this relevant? I would consider that I have the right to use MY mooring without hindrance irrespective of the fact that I am selling her. I still have to moor her you know
Gerry www.sadler32forsale.com
rogerboy
New member
O m g this post is driving me mad.
fireball
New member
Don't read it then