So Drink Driving will soon be law?

[Bergman]

A very good question.

Perhaps the answer will come in due course when they make you have a license to drive your boat purely so they have something to take away from you if you get caught.

 

[duncan]

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A very good question.

Perhaps the answer will come in due course when they make you have a license to drive your boat purely so they have something to take away from you if you get caught.

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indeed - and while they are at it they will then fill the third missing element and require those in charge of a boat to be qualified.

 

[Whitelighter]

I know at least one forumite who would have fallen foul a few saturdays ago /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif!

 

[rickp]

Yup, you can see where this is headed. Building empires step by unarguable step. Difficult to make a case against drink-boating laws, then difficult to make a case about requiring a license so you can ban those who fail a breathe test. Then it will be a "boat tax disc" (akin to your car's tax disc) to fund those breathe-testers and marine police...

Rick

 

[clivew05]

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....indeed - and while they are at it they will then fill the third missing element and require those in charge of a boat to be qualified.

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Surely this should be the case anyway .... you SHOULD NOT be allowed to be in charge of a boat unless you are in some way qualified to do so - this is the reason that ther are so many idiots on the river charging about causing problems - they have no idea of any safety regs col regs etc etc - just pop in to your local boat dealer - buy a boat and hey presto you can go straight out to sea .....

Nah! I think it is a reasonable thing to expect and Im sure it must be made law that before being allowed to take a boat out on the river you should have some sort of course on what you can and cant do and the rules and regs ....

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[Major Catastrophe]

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....indeed - and while they are at it they will then fill the third missing element and require those in charge of a boat to be qualified.

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Surely this should be the case anyway .... you SHOULD NOT be allowed to be in charge of a boat unless you are in some way qualified to do so - this is the reason that ther are so many idiots on the river charging about causing problems - they have no idea of any safety regs col regs etc etc - just pop in to your local boat dealer - buy a boat and hey presto you can go straight out to sea .....

Nah! I think it is a reasonable thing to expect and Im sure it must be made law that before being allowed to take a boat out on the river you should have some sort of course on what you can and cant do and the rules and regs ....

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Absolutely agree with you.

I think that every pastime and hobby should be licensed, regulated and policed.

Fell walking, people fall off mountains - more often than die in leisure boats - should be licensed.

Bicycle riders - They die in their hundreds.

Lawn mowers - there's one they missed and of course hedge cutters and chain saws, in fact gardening without protective boots should be made a criminal offence, especially as I nearly punctured my wellies in 1973 with a fork and am still sweating at the thought of the near miss.

Ladders should be banned, except for use by experts.

Oh yes, walking on pavements is a particularly hazardous thing to do.

When I think about it, in the last three years, my gas cooker in the my kitchen has caused me more injuries than my boat has, so maybe they should be banned and we must only eat cold food, so I won't even mention BBQ's.

Paddling pools should only be used when a qualified lifeguard in present.

Hang gliding. Toatally banned, not just licensed.

Two mile exclusion zones should be placed around all beaches as the attrition rate of bathers is truly appalling and sandcastle building outlawed.


I am sure some of you can think of many other dangerous activities that kill and maim more people than unlicensed boat use.

 

[Bergman]

"indeed - and while they are at it they will then fill the third missing element and require those in charge of a boat to be qualified. "

Of course.

You will need that to get your license

Lots and lots of lovely new civil service jobs to administer that lot

 

[Sixpence]

I hate to add fuel etc. but tree surgeons are supposed to have a chain saw licence already , so don't tempt them too much

 

[Major Catastrophe]

I am talking about amateurs - as in non professionals. Try to keep up Dave!

 

[Sixpence]

I'm trying I'm trying , the problem is that this lot ( HMG ) introduce so many new controls and regulations that it's impossible to keep up with them , this is only one of thier latest brainwaves and some of the others have done nothing but harm to those of us trying to run a business legally , it's madness I tell you , madness . I'm in the process of closing down my electrical business simply because I can't compete against the illegal operators who ignore the regulations , so this is just one more nail in the coffin

 

[Lakesailor]

Ah but. As an amateur, try going and hiring a chain saw. There are about 4 levels of competence testing for chain saw use.

On the point about fell walking. In the Lakes district National Park I seem to remember that 19 people died on the fells last year. Some were medical conditions. Some were falls and some were plain blown off the tops (really!)

So perhaps nursery training slopes, followed by certification and then accompanied walking for novices.

Get me out of here! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

 

[Hurricane]

This is scary!!!

 

[Mike_S]

When SWMBO and I started looking at buying a boat last year, we were both surprised to find there wasn't a requirement for a licence to be honest.

To some extents I do agree with having a 'license' to drive a boat, after all at the moment any halfwit can, to all intents and purposes get behind the throttle of a few tonnes of boat and a seconds later be doing 40-50mph without a clue as to what to do. I like to think my wife & I were/are being responsible to realise we were better off doing the RYA Powerboat course *before* buying our boat, just so we had a vague idea about what to do as both our boating experiences were limited to say the least. They've been invaluable but there's no substitute for experince I guess and that's where licensing would be hard as I'm sure there's far more people using boats who have done for many many years and are incredibly competant at doing so.

 

[Major Catastrophe]

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Ah but. As an amateur, try going and hiring a chain saw. There are about 4 levels of competence testing for chain saw use.

On the point about fell walking. In the Lakes district National Park I seem to remember that 19 people died on the fells last year. Some were medical conditions. Some were falls and some were plain blown off the tops (really!)

So perhaps nursery training slopes, followed by certification and then accompanied walking for novices.

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There you go. Fell Walking must be banned right away. It is a highly dangerous occupation.

As to chain saws, it may be a ball ache to hire one, but B&Q sell them for £79.98 B&Q sell them for £79.98

I know, as I have one and am expecting the knock on the door from the chain saw licensing authority at anytime.

 

[Rich_S]

http://www.epolitix.com/EN/MPWebsites/Stephen+Ladyman/contact.htm

I'm sure he'd love to hear from you! I have sent him an invite to participate in the democratic discussion here

 

[Lakesailor]

I too have a black-market chain-saw hidden away. I had to get a balaclava to wear when using it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[duncan]

oi - I set up that response and you dived in...........set your own witty responses up in future...........

btw are you a licenced comedian?




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[Major Catastrophe]

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btw are you a licenced comedian?

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Er, no.


What's that knock at the door?

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Absolutely. Apart from being unbelievably stupid and unnecessary, this is the thin end of the wedge which leads to compulsory licensing. Then guess what? Licensing would allow taxation and guess who'd pay the most taxation. Yup, gas guzzling motorboats

 

[dragoon]

You can also reach him with Stephen.Ladyman@dft.gsi.gov.uk .

How about his biography. http://www.dft.gov.uk/press/ministers/drstephenladymanmpministerof5804
He doesn't even seem to have a background in transport, let alone boats. I doubt as he's even been to sea.

Quote "Before his election to Parliament Dr Ladyman was Head of Computer User Support at Pfizer"

How do these people get into positions of power? It's like me pretending to be a surgeon!

Cheers,
Paul