Sharing gate codes/Marina pontoon and shower access

[nigelmercier]

I'm a compulsive gate/door shutter. If I see one that is meant to be closed propped open, I shut it.

I'm glad you posted that, I did think I was the only one.

The main offenders are people who wedge open fire doors. I close them, and hide the wedge.

 

[budgester]

The main offenders are people who wedge open fire doors. I close them, and hide the wedge.

Find the offender, Wedge them and set fire to them. At least the doors will be open for them to make a quick exit.

 

[AntarcticPilot]

In my opinion it's definitely Security Theatre.

It doesn't stop anyone that wants to get onto the marina badly enough from getting there, in fact I would suggest that the codes and gates make the pontoons a bit less secure, there is the expectation that if you are on the pontoons then you are there legitimately because you've got through the gate, so less likely to be questioned by people on other boats if they haven't seen you before.

However if access to pontoons if open would secure our boats better with the expectation that any tom dick or harry could be walking past.

Most houses that get burgled are the ones hidden behind bushes, or from hidden back doors etc.... not high traffic roads.

But then who doesn't love a bit of theatre.

During the week, most marinas - certainly the ones I know - are pretty much deserted; the odd people who ARE on board for one reason or another usually know each other by sight!

As you say, security can be a matter of theatre rather than substance. However, it isn't always. At James Watt Dock Marina, they have had to take security pretty seriously because the dock is, to put it politely, in a "regeneration" area. So, the perimeter security is arranged so that owners' cars are within the perimeter; the dock (fortunately) has a central pier that can be isolated at it's base, providing car parking on the pier and controlled access to the pontoons, which are only accessible from the central pier. Existing ladders in the dock walls have been concreted over; there is a small chance that someone could jump onto the pontoons at high tide, but it would be a chancy business (there's a gap between pontoon and wall, so you can't just drop straight down). However, anyone dropping down would then be trapped inside the perimeter - the dock wall is smooth and unclimbeable.

But that's only part of the security system. They also have a comprehensive high resolution IR motion tracking security camera system, with automatic hand-over of "targets" from camera to camera. It's clever enough to allow a camera to be used independently by the security guard, while the rest of the cameras automatically cover the area that camera was meant for. If anyone DID get in, they'd either be spotted or at the very least, there would be high quality evidence to allow said scrotes to be tracked down PDQ.

It isn't fool-proof; nothing is. But it shows that there can be good quality security in place if a marina thinks it is worth while.

 

[Searush]

Maybe it also depends on the actual level of risk at a site? I have never wanted to be in a marina, but recently in N Ireland I asked at a yard if I could top up my motorhome water tanks & chatted with the manager (he was doing up a Newbridge Navigator) while I did it.

Just before he drove off, leaving me on my todd in the open yard, he told me the gate code so I could wander around the pontoons & look at the boats "as I was interested in boats". Clearly he didn't perceive me as a risk, & anyway may have had my reg no if I was.

Just a different perspective on security issues. I love Ireland & the Irish.

 

[budgester]

I guess the insurance companies would have the figures on where the risks are.... is it cheaper to be on a Swing mooring or in a Marina ?

 

[penfold]

The main offenders are people who wedge open fire doors. I close them, and hide the wedge.

Find the offender, Wedge them and set fire to them. At least the doors will be open for them to make a quick exit.

These creatures are second only to the imbeciles who lock or otherwise block access to firedoors.

 

[Even Chance]

Our Marina has access using a wee key fob, which is held onto a panel next to the gate to open it. Far more secure.