selling the slug and buying a mobo

[[2068]]

He hates planing boats with a fervour.

And their owners
I quite like planing.

 

[dylanwinter]

only when they are planing

And their owners
I quite like planing.

but do the people in the surrounding boats like it when you plane your boat close enough so that the wash gives everyone aboard a good shaking

I only dislike the owners when they are making a big noise and a big wash I am sure that in many other parts of their lives they are perfectly pleasant individuals


if you shake my boat around enough to spill my metaphorical or actual cup of tea

then you are not being particulalry considerate to your fellow mariners

and I find it rather weird that I am supposed to be nice to, and tolerant of, the behaviour of the sort of inconsiderate people who appeared in the films right at the beginning of this long thread.

but I am clearly an unreasonable person.

So some mobo owners are inconsiderate and some small boat sailors are accused of being unreasonable when they don't like washes

the way I see the inconsiderate planing mobo has an impact on me

my unreasonable dislike fo washes has no impact whatsoever on the mobo owner

I am utterly powerless



Dylan

Ps still looking forward to seeing all those films of sailors being inconsiderate to mobos

 

[ricky_s]

And their owners
I quite like planing.

Why did you bite? -

 

[dylanwinter]

good point

Why did you bite? -

flower power made a very good point


He does it because he likes it

I like planing more than I care about it impact it has on other people


ask a youth

"why do you put gaffiti on the walll" or "why did you push the old lady over"

answer

"because I like it"


refreshingly honest

I admire tha man

 

[JomsViking]

The one that yelps

Why did you bite? -

If you throw a stone in amongst a bundle of dogs, those that yelp the loudest have been hit?

I tend to agree with Dylan - had a discussion recently with an otherwise nice MoBo'er, He simply could not understand why we were angry at him for setting such a wake that one anchored boat touched bottom.

Was he being inconsiderate or just stupid?

 

[dylanwinter]

Ta

If you throw a stone in amongst a bundle of dogs, those that yelp the loudest have been hit?

I tend to agree with Dylan - had a discussion recently with an otherwise nice MoBo'er, He simply could not understand why we were angry at him for setting such a wake that one anchored boat touched bottom.

Was he being inconsiderate or just stupid?

I have been branded a ranting troll with a temper issues on this forum for filming and posting about inconsiderate behaviour.

careful JV you will be put on the naughty step too.

still looking for those films of inconsiderate sailors silently and slowly getting in the way of speeding mobos

Dylan

 

[ricky_s]

I have been branded a ranting troll with a temper issues on this forum for filming and posting about inconsiderate behaviour.

careful JV you will be put on the naughty step too.

still looking for those films of inconsiderate sailors silently and slowly getting in the way of speeding mobos

Dylan

You are a loon Dylan, but do find your rants entertaining.

 

[Searush]

You are a loon Dylan, but do find your rants entertaining.

He is not a "loon". His is a voice of moderate common sense. well, err mostly

Dylan,
What the most vociferous of the speeding MoBo crowd seem to find disconcerting is that "Raggies deliberately swerve in front of them without warning when they are traveling at speed".

I have never got to grips with quite what is actually happening in these reported incidents. It sounds unlikely to me that any boat owner would suddenly swerve in front of a speeding MoBo, even tho' it theorectically has right of way & the overtaking boat should keep WELL clear. It sounds too like jumping in front of a train or truck & expecting it to stop.

I have suggested that the Raggies in question might be tacking up a channel & that any knowledgeable boat owner would expect a tack near the edge of a channel & would time his overtaking approach to pass astern after the tack.

I have also wondered if the overtaking MoBo's are passing too fast or closer to the Raggie than is strictly necessary or safe. All I get in response (I think it was probably from DAKA) is that they suddenly & deliberately swerve across his bows making it almost impossible for him to avoid them.

 

[[2068]]

"why did you push the old lady over"
answer
"because I like it"

The motorboater tugged at the arrow that was embedded in his the back of his shoulder. It hadn't penetrated deeply, but it took agonising minutes of rooting around before it would come free from the leather jerkin. He sat down on a nearby tree root and strapped up the shoulder with a spare supercharger belt whilst his mind tried to rationalise what had just happened.

The sun was setting behind the conifers in the winter sky, and he shivered: not just because of the shadows and the mist forming around his feet, but also because he could still hear the voices of his fallen motorboating comrades, slain by the barbarian horde.

He was weary of the battle, but what choice was there, other than to fight? In near darkness he got up and stumbled towards the edge of the forest, hoping to regroup with any survivors. Next time they would be better prepared

 

[Searush]

The motorboater tugged at the arrow that was embedded in his the back of his shoulder. It hadn't penetrated deeply, but it took agonising minutes of rooting around before it would come free from the leather jerkin. He sat down on a nearby tree root and strapped up the shoulder with a spare supercharger belt whilst his mind tried to rationalise what had just happened.

The sun was setting behind the conifers in the winter sky, and he shivered: not just because of the shadows and the mist forming around his feet, but also because he could still hear the voices of his fallen motorboating comrades, slain by the barbarian horde.

He was weary of the battle, but what choice was there, other than to fight? In near darkness he got up and stumbled towards the edge of the forest, hoping to regroup with any survivors. Next time they would be better prepared

There, there, Ducky, don't let them get to you.

You have strayed into rival gang territory & must accept some flack. That's why I go & play on the MoBo forum sometimes - I have learned quite a bit about MoBos as a result & can better understand what is likely to happen when they pass me by at full tilt (them not me, of course), or when they are trying to manouvre at slow speed in a crowded & windy marina or anchorage.

I have also learned that many never look behind them at speed because they are unable to believe that someone else could go faster, or even that they have time to look away from dead ahead in case they hit someone. Consequently, they don't see the swamped fishing dinghies behind them, or the yotties flung off their cabin top while setting sails, and they'll never hear the scream of scalded children over the scream of their engines.

 

[Ubergeekian]

I tend to agree with Dylan - had a discussion recently with an otherwise nice MoBo'er, He simply could not understand why we were angry at him for setting such a wake that one anchored boat touched bottom.

A couple of months ago I watched as four of the motorboats which live in Kirkcudbright marina came up the river and played around a bit before returning to their berth. Lots of whizzing around on the plane - and, as far as I could see, utterly indifferent to the half-tide mooring boats which were all being violently thumped on the bottom as the washes hit them. I am sure that damage was done.

 

[Cloona]

got say in the Solent I find the motor boats and their crews really scary when at sea -

really frightening when they come over for a look at 30 knots -

even scarier people charging around in high powered RIBS and not even aware they are driving a craft that is dangerous to others - swimming off the boat in an anchorage could be your last mistake - seen a stag party out in one in chichester harbour - leaving the pub at closing time - seen instructors using them to pick up kids but doing it at speed for a laugh - note the fatalities in the press -

I had no idea until last year how much fuel a big motor boat uses - when someone said only about 25 an hour i didn't grasp he meant pounds - hey ho - its an occasional test to tolerance but there is worse things

 

[BrendanS]

seen instructors using them to pick up kids but doing it at speed for a laugh - note the fatalities in the press

You have links to the news items?

 

[Searush]

A couple of months ago I watched as four of the motorboats which live in Kirkcudbright marina came up the river and played around a bit before returning to their berth. Lots of whizzing around on the plane - and, as far as I could see, utterly indifferent to the half-tide mooring boats which were all being violently thumped on the bottom as the washes hit them. I am sure that damage was done.

The trouble is, that if you try to explain the issue to them, they generally just get aggressive as a defence mechanism. They probably realise that they are seen to have behaved like Muppets, but can't be gracious enough to admit it. Definitely implies to me that they have a personality weakness of some sort. So it goes.

 

[ricky_s]

All the usual **** as expected.

Mobo's never understand what their wake does, blah, blah, blah!

What do you think happens when we are at anchor? Do we float over the water so wash doesn't bother us? Maybe we understand that we are on a liquid and perhaps it may move so make allowances!

 

[BrendanS]

Are you talking about Mobo's in general, or the very few idiots?

 

[dylanwinter]

what can I say

And their owners
I quite like planing.

well in answer to the guys above

I love this man for his honesty

Dylan

 

[longjohnsilver]

- seen instructors using them to pick up kids but doing it at speed for a laugh - note the fatalities in the press -

Do you mean picking them up from the water? Which part of the child do they grab? Maybe they end up with a boat full of severed arms and legs, presumably that's what causes the fatalities. But I don't recall too many, reports about it, or to be more precise, no reports at all. Am i reading the wrong papers?

And a question for Dylan. We have a flybridge boat with a max speed of less than 9 kts. Is this acceptable? ;-)

 

[Cloona]

You have links to the news items?

hi Brendan,

the incidents that spring to mind are the young couple who died off Bembridge and I recall a disaster on the sea wall at Cowes.

I am not going to trawl around trying to prove anything - recently there was tragedy in Cyprus involving a serviceman on his way home from Afghanistan - I always enjoyed Kisty McColls music -

what are you trying to say to me ?

 

[BrendanS]

how do they relate to the incidents you mention of instructors picking up children at speed, and fatalities