SeaSmart - The intelligent marine toilet sanitizer.

[kyleview]

I have just read about this in the New Gear section of YM Summer edition. Seems to be a simple and safe solution to a nasty problem. Anyone got any experience with fitting/using and does it live up to expectation. I like the fact that all the connections are beside the toilet, even above the waterline, and can be seen daily without having to go below the floor to check.

I have looked at several other solutions and have been put off doing as I considered them to be the "weakest link" in the heads pipework, also most times out of view.

 

[sarabande]

I find it amazing that people can spend so much money developing, selling or buying, a product that is so dependent on technology. If the 'disinfectant' were put into a squeezy bottle, left adjacent to the heads, then a tiny squirt before use would have exactly the same effect as the complicated machine they sell, with its concomitant, finite, product life-cycle and carbon footprint.


I've asked them to send a copy of their Materials Safety Data Sheet for the "environmentally friendly" liquid product. I await its arrival with bated breath.

I bet it uses a form of bleach......

 

[VO5]

Simple alternative:~

Pump out the heads.
Fill the bowl with fresh water and pump a few strokes for it to circulate.
Drop 3 steradent tablets in the bowl filled to the rim.
Allow it to fizz for a couple of hours.
Empty the bowl, and hey presto! ...spotless !

 

[kyleview]

Both of the above reply miss the point completely - the odour build up is in the inlet pipe from the seacock to the heads. You can do all you want at the heads with chemicals, sprays, etc, but it's too late then as it's the end of the inlet pipe, not the start! I know from many many years of experience.

 

[johnphilip]

I think the point is the price charged for these products. I think it was the Lee Sanitation one I used to use. Was it about £8 per small bottle? Anyway I stopped valuing my nose so highly and now just rely on pumping vigorously when we get on board each weekend.

 

[kyleview]

It really depresses me at times the number of "glass half empty" types that reply to a simple question on this forum - they never seem to want to spend a penny on anything that may improve life. They seem to know everything, reminds of the "old farts" club which I have refused to join even at 70.

 

[johnphilip]

Spend a penny?

It really depresses me at times the number of "glass half empty" types that reply to a simple question on this forum - they never seem to want to spend a penny on anything that may improve life. They seem to know everything, reminds of the "old farts" club which I have refused to join even at 70.

I'm sorry but reluctance to spend several quid on probably 50 pennyworth of disinfectant is my choice and does not make me an old fart. Perhaps it is the old farts causing all the stink.

 

[tolhurstorganic]

You can be really smart by not spending any money at all. Simply make sure you pump the toilet vigourously at least once a day. All nasty smells will disapear! This certainly worked for Naida her pipes got really smelly after a few months. Problem has not reacurred for two years now. Always pump 25 times when leaving boat.

 

[kyleview]

Been away for a month cruising and heads pumped several times each day and absolutely no smell at all over the month - exactly as expected. Now back a week and pumped the heads yesterday and the dreaded whiff once more - all it needs is a few days of no water going through the intake pipe and the whiff starts again - as predicted. Maybe it's the water in our marina which adds to the problem.

 

[wilkinsonsails]

This system was recently installed on board for a client .It has worked ,but the downside has been rather rapid use of the solution .Five to seven persons on board ,mostly used full time ,(not in a marina)solution was used up after 4 weeks.At £44.00 a refill and 2 loos ,may work out expensive if you are on the boat lot.

 

[kyleview]

This system was recently installed on board for a client .It has worked ,but the downside has been rather rapid use of the solution .Five to seven persons on board ,mostly used full time ,(not in a marina)solution was used up after 4 weeks.At £44.00 a refill and 2 loos ,may work out expensive if you are on the boat lot.

Good input - they did mention this could be the case on their website - Thanks.

Would be good if you could turn it off (remove battery?) when using the boat for extended periods as it's not a problem then - see above. It's when just using at weekends the whiff is a real pain for the first few hours until all the stale intake water gets pumped through the heads.

 

[DEREK WITHRINGTON]

As the manufacturer, could I please correct the figures quoted above. The price of a single refill is £23.50 and will last about a season for a boat with average use, or you can buy two refills for £42.00 i.e. £21.00 each.

During heavy usage the SeaSmart reduces the amount dispensed automatically, so one refill can disinfect approximately 1000 complete flushes of the toilet.

If you disconnect the battery you will loose the advantage of having all you sanitation hose continually disinfected. SeaSmart is a lot cheaper than replacing sanitation hoses.

 

[kyleview]

As the manufacturer, could I please correct the figures quoted above. The price of a single refill is £23.50 and will last about a season for a boat with average use, or you can buy two refills for £42.00 i.e. £21.00 each.

During heavy usage the SeaSmart reduces the amount dispensed automatically, so one refill can disinfect approximately 1000 complete flushes of the toilet.

If you disconnect the battery you will loose the advantage of having all you sanitation hose continually disinfected. SeaSmart is a lot cheaper than replacing sanitation hoses.

Good input - Thanks

 

[V1701]

Has anybody contacted Barry Scott?

 

[BruceDanforth]

Can this be retrofitted to my bucket?

I have just read about this in the New Gear section of YM Summer edition. Seems to be a simple and safe solution to a nasty problem. Anyone got any experience with fitting/using and does it live up to expectation. I like the fact that all the connections are beside the toilet, even above the waterline, and can be seen daily without having to go below the floor to check.

I have looked at several other solutions and have been put off doing as I considered them to be the "weakest link" in the heads pipework, also most times out of view.

 

[GeorgeLlewellin]

Both of the above reply miss the point completely - the odour build up is in the inlet pipe from the seacock to the heads.

kyleview is correct and if you want proof of the fact then read The School Mistresses book "Get Rid of Boat Odors: A Boat Owner's Guide to Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" £13.13 from Amazon here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Get-Rid-Boa...UTF8&colid=AQIWVHZCV7BS&coliid=I361RRPM7NH4MD
or other bookshops.

George

 

[BlueSkyNick]

kyleview is correct and if you want proof of the fact then read The HEAD Mistresses book "Get Rid of Boat Odors: A Boat Owner's Guide to Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" £13.13 from Amazon here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Get-Rid-Boa...UTF8&colid=AQIWVHZCV7BS&coliid=I361RRPM7NH4MD
or other bookshops.

George

I have corrected that for you - I think you were missing the subtlety of her name !

 

[Converging]

I like the idea of the Seasmart system but have concerns that it contains benzalokonium chloride. Seasmart assure me its safe but will not tell me how much of this stuff is in their mix as its a propriatory solution. Does anyone know what exactly it is made up of?

 

[Sybarite]

Did anybody try lighting a match - wrt an earlier thread?

 

[nicho]

Both of the above reply miss the point completely - the odour build up is in the inlet pipe from the seacock to the heads. You can do all you want at the heads with chemicals, sprays, etc, but it's too late then as it's the end of the inlet pipe, not the start! I know from many many years of experience.

Absolutely right. The smell comes from rotting bacteria in the sea water inlet pipe. This is very difficult to overcome, but simply flushing as much as possible when you first arrive at the boat, and opening all the windows/hatches will dissipate it as much as possible.