SeaSmart - The intelligent marine toilet sanitizer.

[Elessar]

Absolutely right. The smell comes from rotting bacteria in the sea water inlet pipe. This is very difficult to overcome, but simply flushing as much as possible when you first arrive at the boat, and opening all the windows/hatches will dissipate it as much as possible.

Easy to overcome. Convert to freshwater flush. You’ll never go back.

 

[Solent sailer]

So many negative comments when they have no actual experience of it.
I bought one a couple of years ago and it is great. No smells now when I come on board, first flush the toilet or subsequently. Easy to install and the only maintenance is changing the battery and changing the bag.
I have used one bag per year (I am on my boat about 80 days per year).
And just to say, I have no connections with the company, just a happy customer.

we have had two, on our last boat it was fantastic, no smell and one disinfectant a year seems reasonable. on our present boat the pipe is much longer and it doesn't work as well - i don't think it covers all the pipe despite getting the extension kit from the manufactures. i don't think i would bother again on a long inlet pipe but for a relatively short pipe they are great.

 

[Laurie]

That may answer my thoughts...I have just fitted one (VERY simple) but have a long inlet and can't be sure that the feed pipe has not folded on itself somewhere. I guess we'll see this season

 

[V1701]

This thread is from 2013...

 

[rotrax]

Our current boat has a very short - under 1 metre - pipe from the seacock and strainer unit to the heads. The smell is only momentary when getting aboard and operating the toilet..

Our previous boat, same manufacturer, different model, had a 5 metre inlet pipe. The smell was significant compared to the vessel with the short pipe.

As already pointed out, most of the smell is from decayed organisms in the inlet pipe when the vessel is left for a time.

We regularly flush with fresh water and leave the boat with white vinegar in the outlet pipe and bowl. Obviously by putting direct into the bowl.

This keeps the bowl clean and helps keep the pipe from blocking with deposits.

 

[Captn Haddock]

Has anyone got experience how to fix the seasmart? I'm not that keen to buy a new one.

Mine has stopped working automatically as it should, ie it just never does the squirting business. Me and another mate have both had a go, replacing the battery (two new ones have been tried independently), a new full bag has been fitted and I can prime the pump by pressing the button as per the manual and it then squirts nicely. So yes, I've done the ultimate thing and have actually read the manual .....
I'm thinking it is the sensor not working ? Or maybe something else? Has anyone got any experience how to fix this?

PS please, please spare me the advice of how to get rid of the smell WITHOUT fixing the seasmart; I've been down that road and the instructions I have are crystall clear: by spring the seasmart has to be working again!

 

[Stemar]

the instructions I have are crystall clear: by spring the seasmart has to be working again!

Ah, by order of the Admiral. You have my sympathy.

Don't let it spoil your Christmas

 

[Solent sailer]

We fitted one probably 15 years ago on our sadler32 and it worked great, no small at all when you arrived on the boat and first flushed the heads. Fitted one on the new boat 5 years ago and just removed it as it dident seem to work at all. Much longer pipe from the sea cock to the toilet pump on this one and it didn't seem to be able to cope. We tended to disconnect the battery when we were away sailing for a few days as you only get the smell when the boat is left for a week or so un-used and it saved on the disinfectant.

 

[Povremeni pomorac]

It really depresses me at times the number of "glass half empty" types that reply to a simple question on this forum - they never seem to want to spend a penny on anything that may improve life. They seem to know everything, reminds of the "old farts" club which I have refused to join even at 70.

I agree 101%. It's why I don't come here often. In the same vein, you ask a question like, "Is there a decent 30 footer with twin wheels?" and you get one or two saying, "You don't want that, you want a tiller". Bollox of course.

 

[Povremeni pomorac]

Unless there's something more than benzalkonium chloride in it, no.

IIRC, the calcium buildup is a reaction between urine and seawater, so it can be prevented by adequate flushing to ensure everything that wasn't pumped into the loo leaves the boat completely. There's a formula, x pumps per metre of hose, but I can't remember what it is and couldn't find it, but I did come across this idea

[h=3]So How Long Should I Keep Pumping?[/h]For as long as it takes to clear the whole length of discharge hose and that of course depends on how long it is. The solution is simple…

• Put a few sheets of toilet paper in the pan, start pumping and count the strokes;

• Get another person to check when it emerges at the other end, add another half-a-dozen strokes or so and that’s how many times you must pump it on every use;

• Then click the switch across to ‘dry’ and pump a few more strokes to empty the pipes down to the water line and that’s it, job done!

Don’t Let Your Boat Toilet Ruin Your Day!

Doesn't loo paper block the pipe? I am told it always does! Clearly not. Have people been lying to me?

 

[LittleSister]

I agree 101%. It's why I don't come here often. In the same vein, you ask a question like, "Is there a decent 30 footer with twin wheels?" and you get one or two saying, "You don't want that, you want a tiller". Bollox of course.

You don't want a sailing forum, you want a selection of boat manufacturers' brochures.

 

[Sandy]

Has anyone got experience how to fix the seasmart? I'm not that keen to buy a new one.

Mine has stopped working automatically as it should, ie it just never does the squirting business. Me and another mate have both had a go, replacing the battery (two new ones have been tried independently), a new full bag has been fitted and I can prime the pump by pressing the button as per the manual and it then squirts nicely. So yes, I've done the ultimate thing and have actually read the manual .....
I'm thinking it is the sensor not working ? Or maybe something else? Has anyone got any experience how to fix this?

PS please, please spare me the advice of how to get rid of the smell WITHOUT fixing the seasmart; I've been down that road and the instructions I have are crystall clear: by spring the seasmart has to be working again!

I'd contact the manufacturer. There was one post from him early in the thread, but he has not posted since. Perhaps their website would be my first port of call.

 

[Captn Haddock]

I'd contact the manufacturer. There was one post from him early in the thread, but he has not posted since. Perhaps their website would be my first port of call.

Yep, I had had a look at their website and the sensor is not listed as a spare part. I'll ring them in the New Year, cheers.

 

[Stemar]

Doesn't loo paper block the pipe? I am told it always does! Clearly not. Have people been lying to me?

No. you've just met those who've had the kind of people on their boats who think half a roll is about right for an ordinary No2. Sensible amounts of paper will do no harm unless the outlet pipe is already half blocked with "calcium deposits" of dubious chemistry and even more dubious aroma, and the only reason for them is inadequate flushing, probably by those same half roll people. Taking the pipe off and bashing it on the ground is the usual fix.

 

[Povremeni pomorac]

No. you've just met those who've had the kind of people on their boats who think half a roll is about right for an ordinary No2. Sensible amounts of paper will do no harm unless the outlet pipe is already half blocked with "calcium deposits" of dubious chemistry and even more dubious aroma, and the only reason for them is inadequate flushing, probably by those same half roll people. Taking the pipe off and bashing it on the ground is the usual fix.

Does it work for the colon too? I wonder if I will be admonished for using the word "colon"?

 

[Stemar]

Does it work for the colon too? I wonder if I will be admonished for using the word "colon"?

Taking it out and bashing it around a bit is straightforward enough. It's getting it all back together in working order that's more difficult. However, while it's an effective way of dealing with the half a roll people, unfortunately, that sort of pesticide is generally frowned upon.

 

[Thistle]

No. you've just met those who've had the kind of people on their boats who think half a roll is about right for an ordinary No2.

Good grief! Three sheets per person per day is the standard ration. One up, one down and a polish!

 

[Captn Haddock]

Yep, I had had a look at their website and the sensor is not listed as a spare part. I'll ring them in the New Year, cheers.

Quick follow up on this:
I had a good chat with the guys in January and they were most helpful! I took the unit off, sent it to them and they fixed it at a pretty reasonable rate. I definitely recommend to anyone that if they want to take it off, they use the opportunity to dismantle the pump of the loo as well and also clear out the outlet pipe. Getting the seasmart's little pipe out of the loo is a job requiring marigolds, so you might as well carry on and get it all sorted. The little unit is now back on the wall, so far so good! We've only done day sailing so far, but it'll get a proper test over the Easter break.

 

[Laurie]

Interesting comments earlier about perhaps the SeaSmart doesn't work so well with long inlet pipes. That's certainly the case on my boat and we've not been convinced with it's efficacy since we've had it...a couple of years now?

 

[Jodel]

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