Matata
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am better off with 20kg of anchor and 10kg of chain or the other way around or is there a handy rule of thumb? Nik
Say I can only lift 30 kg.....
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sarabande
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10kg of 10mm chain is about 4 metres length. Better than nothing I suppose.
What the type and displacement of the boat please ?
What the type and displacement of the boat please ?
Matata
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sigma 33. It was the concept I was after rather than the exact figures. Ta
bikedaft
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You can lift a lot more than that using your knees
Or add mechanical advantage of swigging or mechanical windlass or a long rope back to the cockpit
Etc
Or add mechanical advantage of swigging or mechanical windlass or a long rope back to the cockpit
Etc
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And it doesn't weigh so much in the water.
Matata
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ok say I can lift 60kg. What proportion should be anchor weight and hence proportion of chain weight?
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30 kg anchor rope rode and a 30 kg kellet to be slid down the rode on a separate line.
William_H
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My opinion is that it would be better to have the larger anchor than the large amount of chain. A larger anchor represents larger area of flukes to dig into sand or mud. Of course you need chain but if this is a limiting factor then rope rode along with 2 fathoms of chain. All specs for safety here in Oz prescribe a piece of chain and rope as a minimum.
good luck olewill
good luck olewill
onesea
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I was faced with similar problem, I looked at the anchor type as well.
At the time the best I could find (Plus I like Danforths) was a Fortress FX16 at 8 kg's. I still keep the old CQR in a locker below but have no intention of using it.
Chain wise I would not go less than 10m but that's just a choice thing (I can get all but the last few meters on deck using jib sheet and winch if I had to...
Now I would be tempted by a Knox 9 or 13 kg as they look much better than the CQR. I just want to get my hands & eyes on one before buying.
Anchor rode I need to replace, I plan on 4 x 50m lengths of anchor plat so I can join them up for extra length but not have to much in one coil to deal with. Then I can also use them as mooring ropes if I end up alongside a wall with large tidal range.
At the time the best I could find (Plus I like Danforths) was a Fortress FX16 at 8 kg's. I still keep the old CQR in a locker below but have no intention of using it.
Chain wise I would not go less than 10m but that's just a choice thing (I can get all but the last few meters on deck using jib sheet and winch if I had to...
Now I would be tempted by a Knox 9 or 13 kg as they look much better than the CQR. I just want to get my hands & eyes on one before buying.
Anchor rode I need to replace, I plan on 4 x 50m lengths of anchor plat so I can join them up for extra length but not have to much in one coil to deal with. Then I can also use them as mooring ropes if I end up alongside a wall with large tidal range.
JimC
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Where you are limited in terms of the total weight you can carry I think it's best to have the minimum length of chain and use the rest of the allowable weight in the anchor. As regards what constitutes the minimum length of chain opinions vary, I use one boat's length: 10 metres. With a comparatively short length of chain the rope to chain splice is going to be near to or on the bottom so I check mine frequently for chafe but haven't had to re-make it in three years.
The only drawback I've found to having a mainly rope rode is that the boat will wander around more when at anchor than one using an all-chain rode. Using a Kellet as advised by TQA is said to limit this - not tried it myself. (A Kellet is a weight suspended from the rode between boat & anchor, I prefer the alternative term Angel as being more descriptive of function i.e. sent down from on high)
The only drawback I've found to having a mainly rope rode is that the boat will wander around more when at anchor than one using an all-chain rode. Using a Kellet as advised by TQA is said to limit this - not tried it myself. (A Kellet is a weight suspended from the rode between boat & anchor, I prefer the alternative term Angel as being more descriptive of function i.e. sent down from on high)
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lw395
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I'm another fan of the rode weight or kellet, but I secure it to the rode.
That way it is not sliding about chafing the rode.
Everything depends on what weather you intend to anchor through.
There is some merit in having a longer length of lighter chain for everyday use, to avoid chafe from rocks, but you must have a rode that is strong enough for heavy use.
Ideally I'd have a light anchor such as a Fortress for easy lunch stops, and a good heavy anchor and chain stored below for if I get caught in a blow.
That way it is not sliding about chafing the rode.
Everything depends on what weather you intend to anchor through.
There is some merit in having a longer length of lighter chain for everyday use, to avoid chafe from rocks, but you must have a rode that is strong enough for heavy use.
Ideally I'd have a light anchor such as a Fortress for easy lunch stops, and a good heavy anchor and chain stored below for if I get caught in a blow.
Ruffles
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I find the hardest bit is getting the anchor over the rail because you're reaching out. Pulling my chain (!) is easy. Sit on the foredeck with feet in the anchor locker.
I replaced an old CQR with a slightly smaller delta and find it a lot easier. Though I don't think I've ever deployed all 40m. Not deliberately anyway!
I replaced an old CQR with a slightly smaller delta and find it a lot easier. Though I don't think I've ever deployed all 40m. Not deliberately anyway!
