Roller Reefing line diameter

[rajjes]

Anyone knows what is the recommended line diameter for the roller reefing drum on a plastimo 608 roller reefing?

I would prefer 8mm for comfort but not sure if this would be too big for the drum. Its on an 8m boat.

 

[BAtoo]

I have 8mm on the next size up Plastimo and it fits OK so would give it a go, also OK to handle.

 

[Skyva_2]

This is easy to get wrong. I use 8mm line on a Plastimo for a 43 ft boat and have had problems with the bulk of line. Lines can also vary in softness. If possible test with an old line before buying.

 

[TiggerToo]

someone recommended removing the inner braid of a thicker line for part of the length (I don't recall who much), so that the roll at the reefing would be slimmer, but the bit that you handle thick enough for comfort. I reckon it is an idea to consider should you have problems. Bear in mind that if you are having to pull the line at tensions which even remotely approach the line's safe SWL, then you are highly likely to damage the forestay and reefing foil.

 

[tomainsley]

tiggertoo's right. You should core about half the line (i.e. milk it and get rid of half the length of the inner braid) and then it will fit nicely on your drum and require little effort to get in or out. I use a cored 6mm on mine and there's no discomfort to hands, i'm sure it would work well with an 8mm.

 

[Poignard]

Another owner of a Twister lent me such a line last year and it worked very well.

Memo: must give it back to him and make my own /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[Strathglass]

On the 1210T Plastimo specifically state that 8mm rope should be used.

You should be able to find the fitting instructions on line for the 608. I would be surprised if they don't quote the line size there.

I am going to the rope for my reefing on Sunday at the Troon boat jumble. If I find it at the right price.

It was difficult to find the length required as the mast has not been stepped yet. I ended up by winding 8mm 3 strand nylon round the drum and by adding the length of that rope that to the length of the boat I arrived at 33 metres. Seems a lot but I will always find a use for any excess, better too long than too short.

Iain

 

[Salty John]

Plastimo says 6mm for the 608, the drum capacity is 13m. The 810 has 8mm and 17.5m capacity. They recommend prestretched braid.

 

[lw395]

It's worth making sure it's not too long, if there is too much on the drum, jams can occur more easily. I found out the hard way that when broad reaching in a rolling sea, the turns on the drum can slacken and form a clove hitch or six! Memo to self: Always keep a little tension on the reefing line.
It also helps to make sure the line winds onto the drum nicely, harken recommend a ratchet block to provide a little drag on the line as the sail rolls out.

 

[alec]

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someone recommended removing the inner braid of a thicker line for part of the length (I don't recall who much), so that the roll at the reefing would be slimmer, but the bit that you handle thick enough for comfort. I reckon it is an idea to consider should you have problems. Bear in mind that if you are having to pull the line at tensions which even remotely approach the line's safe SWL, then you are highly likely to damage the forestay and reefing foil.

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I find double braid kinder on the hands.

I purchased some 'fender rope' , which as you mention, has the innards taken out and works ok ( for fenders) .

The chap selling it mentioned that it would be good for furling gear but not tried it myself.

 

[lw395]

If you taper the rope, the length to make thinner is back to the first point where you handle it or it goes in a clutch.

 

[cpedw]

How difficult is it to extract the core from half the length? Do you unpick the outer at the halfway point, cut the inner then relay the outer and pull?
It sounds too straightforward. Any hints?
Thanks,
Derek

 

[ditchcrawler]

I have 8mm on my Hood furler with the core reduced for the section in the drum.It works a treat.

 

[Refueler]

Guy before me had a furling line on the 609 ... when I unrolled the genny - it came to end of line and genny still partly furled. Turned out line was ~ 1m too short.

6mm soft multiplait is what I use ... and when I replaced his I added not 1m but 2m. Why ? Because often when people unfurl in a hurry they don't "hold back" the furling line to roll nicely onto drum - then even that extra 1m can be lost.

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

you pull the inner out of the sheath at the point where you want to cut it, and do so.... and then 'milk' it out... you'll never pull it out, so start at one end, and work it out instead.... not that hard, but can take a while....

 

[Leighb]

Interesting that it is the core being removed to taper the rope.

I had a tapered line made by RigMagic for the reefing drum on my main last year and they removed the outer and tapered the end of the outer to the inner.

This works well as there is only room for 4mm line on the drum, and it was hell on the hands.

 

[Refueler]

A lot of sheathed cordage - the inner gives it the strength, the outer the resistance to abrasion. Cheaper rope of course - stuff we would never use ( /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif ) often has the inner as non-interwoven or non-braided strip-line - the outer then providing a holding service keeping it together.

So in fact to retain max strength in a line such as we are discussing - yes the inner is the required cordage. But as another says - if you approach SWL of the cordage - then there's something seriously wrong with your gear.

 

[Ruffles]

Just a thought.

If you use a thinner line then you will have to pull harder as you start to reef the sail 'cos the drum is less full.

Mine can be a pain to get the first turn in when it's blowing.

 

[Refueler]

Also if you go too thin a line - first or subsequent pull when plenty of line on the drum may have more tendency to produce a riding turn or line snag.

 

[Topcat47]

I've done that. A very good solution. The braid is strong enough to operate the reefing and the rope ineer gives a good feel for handling.