Rocna Anchors acquired by Canada Metal Pacific

[FishyInverness]

Ahem, er I haven't read every single post on this subject, but am asking for a recap, namely, have CMP said what grade of steel will be used for the new anchors, and is this any worse/better than the grade used in Manson?

As a detailed answer to this:

Manson Supreme is using Q&T800 Steel.

http://www.manson-marine.co.nz/SitePages/SupConstruction.htm

This was what was originally specified by the Rocna designer as being the minimum strength of steel required for the rocna design to function correctly.

CMP have stated that the Rocna anchor will now be manufactured from Q620 steel (Oh, hang on, can't find a link anywhere on their website where they'll tell you what it's going to be made from! ) - They would appear to have the designer's agreement that this is "ok", despite his earlier vehement assertions that only Q&T800 would do.

Q620 is generally assumed to be an inferior quality of steel.

The potential savings in using this quality of steel have presumably not been passed on to the end customer. In the UK, at least, the Rocna is still considerably more expensive than the Manson...

 

[Chris_Robb]

Going for the 1,000th post...no other reason

Missed it!

 

[bigwow]

Going for the 1,000th post...no other reason

Slow day in the office?

 

[snooks]

Slow day in the office?

Unfortunately not...I just saw the opportunity and went for it

 

[Rigger Mortice]

Unfortunately not...I just saw the opportunity and went for it

As you're here, here's a suggestion.

How about YBW giving us access to the old Rocna thread which was pulled all those months ago? Most people assume that it was shut following some moaning by Bambury/Holdfast but as that business is no more....

Put a lock on the thing by all means, but it would be helpful to be able to access the old information to see who said what, and when.

 

[snooks]

As you're here, here's a suggestion.

I'm always here

I'll have a chat with Nat/Laura...gimme a min or two.....

[Countdown timer]


Ok, I'm back....I'll just have to go through the thread and remove a link or two...I think you can guess which ones...the thread will be moved back and I'll post a link


How's that?

 

[Rigger Mortice]

I'm always here

I'll have a chat with Nat/Laura...gimme a min or two.....

[Countdown timer]


Ok, I'm back....I'll just have to go through the thread and remove a link or two...I think you can guess which ones...the thread will be moved back and I'll post a link


How's that?

Blimey! I've always said what a good sort you are! Well done.

 

[FishyInverness]

Just while we're waiting....

Anyone fancy popping over to the Rocna website and clicking on the bottom right hand corner under "Website Policy".

It seems that someone's not doing their housekeeping efficiently enough...

 

[maxi77]

Just while we're waiting....

Anyone fancy popping over to the Rocna website and clicking on the bottom right hand corner under "Website Policy".

It seems that someone's not doing their housekeeping efficiently enough...

OOPS!

 

[Twister_Ken]

Just while we're waiting....

Anyone fancy popping over to the Rocna website and clicking on the bottom right hand corner under "Website Policy".

It seems that someone's not doing their housekeeping efficiently enough...

Just another sign of how flaky the entire business is.

 

[snooks]

OK...I've just had a skim read of all 20 pages or all 768 posts which it why it has taken a bit of time. If there is anything in there that anyone is unhappy with PM me and I'll edit it.

The thread is back and locked and will remain locked

You can however view the link here

I have had to edit the unfounded allegations about Grant King that were on Steve Banbury's post. I'm sure everyone understands why

 

[maxi77]

Just another sign of how flaky the entire business is.

Is it a sign that Holdfast aims to be a phoenix company when past liabilities have been cast off with the liquidation.

 

[toad_oftoadhall]

I have had to edit the unfounded allegations about Grant King that were on Steve Banbury's post.

The allegations were irrelevant to the topic of anchors and shouldn't have been posted for that reason, in my view. But they weren't unfounded because Grant admitted the allegations were true.

In spite of that minor quibble thanks for restoring the thread.

 

[toad_oftoadhall]

The allegations were irrelevant to the topic of anchors and shouldn't have been posted for that reason, in my view. But they weren't unfounded because Grant admitted the allegations were true.

In spite of that minor quibble thanks for restoring the thread.

Sorry, I've read Steve B's original post and it contained boat loads of allegations and Grant didn't admit them all at all. When I say admitted the allegations I should have said admitted the one allegation that happened to stick in my mind. No idea about the others.

Sorry, all.

 

[jordanbasset]

Originally Posted by toad_oftoadhall
The allegations were irrelevant to the topic of anchors and shouldn't have been posted for that reason, in my view. But they weren't unfounded because Grant admitted the allegations were true.

In spite of that minor quibble thanks for restoring the thread.

Sorry, I've read Steve B's original post and it contained boat loads of allegations and Grant didn't admit them all at all. When I say admitted the allegations I should have said admitted the one allegation that happened to stick in my mind. No idea about the others.

Sorry, all.

Hi, think you have Grant and Steve mixed up, may be useful to edit it ti make it clear

 

[toad_oftoadhall]

Hi, think you have Grant and Steve mixed up, may be useful to edit it ti make it clear

I don't think I have, have I?

 

[Rigger Mortice]

Not now that you've edited it! When it first went up you did have them mixed up.

 

[toad_oftoadhall]

Not now that you've edited it! When it first went up you did have them mixed up.

I thought that, but look at the quote in Jordan's post, by the time he got to it, it was right.

So I *think* he's reasonably assuming that Grant makes the allegations round here.

Or maybe Jordan read the original and waited 3 minutes before quoting it and didn't read his post.

 

[jordanbasset]

I thought that, but look at the quote in Jordan's post, by the time he got to it, it was right.

So I *think* he's reasonably assuming that Grant makes the allegations round here.

Or maybe Jordan read the original and waited 3 minutes before quoting it and didn't read his post.

Hi you said Grant admitted the allegations, is that what you meant

 

[snooks]

But they weren't unfounded because Grant admitted the allegations were true.

Not the ones that Steve put in about Grant stealing money from Rocna. They weren't true.

The others had no relevance to the thread, or this discussion