scottie
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One with remote Mike?
Replacement VHF
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ditchcrawler
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I had the Standard Horizon with built in AIS. (2100 I Think). I fed this to a separate AIS display from Vesper which only cost me £199 including packing from NZ. It worked very well as the Vesper unit enables you to filter out many targets. I filtered out anything doing less than one knot . Unfortunately Vesper stopped doing this unit which seems a shame. I also had the cockpit mike with the radio. The S/H kit was excellent. The screen on the radio went funny after 2 years and a few days, and although out of guarantee S/H replaced it free of charge.. They are a good company to do business with in my opinion.
fredrussell
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lustyd
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Are you suggesting that's in some way better than the screen on the radio? It's larger I'll give you that, but it looks a lot less useful overall. I can't for the life of me see a reason you wouldn't want AIS on the plotter where it belongs.
PaulRainbow
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I don't think anyone is suggesting the screen on a dedicated AIS, which doesn't have a screen, is better than one on a VHF, that would be somewhat ridiculous. What is being said is, that the screen on the VHF is too small and it's better to have the display on a plotter.
PaulRainbow
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This can also be done if you have a Garmin plotter and VHF, or a B&G plotter and VHF, i'm not ware of any other combination doing it at the moment.
lustyd
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Looks to me as though those people are saying it's not worth getting a combined unit because the screen isn't big enough for AIS to be useful. I was highlighting that with the exception of the 1980's looking NASA unit you have to connect to a plotter anyway so might as well get one unit to do both jobs.
My old boat had a standard horizon plotter and VHF and would quite happily exchange MMSI numbers between the two. It's a standard NMEA sentence for DSC so no reason others wouldn't support it.
My old boat had a standard horizon plotter and VHF and would quite happily exchange MMSI numbers between the two. It's a standard NMEA sentence for DSC so no reason others wouldn't support it.
Buck Turgidson
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You can do it through a Triton2 display connected to a V50 radio without a plotter.
rogerthebodger
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I have NASA AIS / SH VHF / USB and RS232 GPS feed to my 12VDC truck PC running OCPN. The SH displays the AIS signal in CPA order, so its very easy to select which vessel you wish to call and press the button. This also applies to the cockpit hand mic
The OCPN will superimpose the AIS onto the screen and give all the necessary info
Using the MMSI you don't really need the vessel name to make the initial contact.
This is all by the old NMEA which does all I need at the mo.
PaulRainbow
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Others do not support initiating a DSC call from the plotter.
PaulRainbow
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I understand that, what i said was, with the appropriate plotter and VHF, you can initiate a DSC call from the plotter, simply by touching the AIS target on screen and then selecting the option to initiate the call. No need to enter MMSI numbers.
PaulRainbow
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rogerthebodger
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Ok now I understand what you meant. The SH I have does not have a input message to initiate a call from an input signal I new OPCN does not have that facility so I was considering writing an addon for that but because the SH radio would not respond there was no point.
So selecting the MMIS from the list on the radio also eliminated the need to enter a MMSI unless its a mate I wish to call which I just add his MMSI in to a stored list
I see it just a different way of doing the same thing. Both are very good and make it easy to make a call.
skipperwales
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I've always used sailor radios when involved with commercial stuff and they appeared straight forward and bombproof, so I installed a Sailor 6210 with a command mike in the cockpit in my boat and its been a fantastic bit of kit. Having said that I agree entirely about Standard Horizon. I've always thought Icom to be a bit 'style over substance'.
prv
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Because they saw someone else say it, and haven’t engaged brain since.
A moment’s thought will reveal what a silly so-called point it is. Nobody does collision avoidance on a VHF screen, nobody is advocating doing collision-avoidance on a VHF screen. I wish my SH GX2100 hadn’t wasted a button by making it call up an AIS display that I never use because it’s too small to be useful. The job of an AIS receiver is to receive and decode messages from the air and send them out over NMEA to a separate display. Putting that receiver inside the VHF saves space and wiring and probably a little power. The fact that the VHF also has a screen on it for doing radio stuff is neither here nor there.
Pete
tudorsailor
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Can I ask how useful DSC is? I have it but have never used it.
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lustyd
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It's very useful to those who know how to use it.
skipmac
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I have both and have a slight preference for Standard Horizon. Partly based on the fact that I've owned 5-6 SH based units in 40 years, still have one that's 25 years old and none have ever failed. Also the SH seems to have slightly better volume and sound quality which helps after 40 years of rock and roll concerts. Those dams Brit bands were killers. After seeing the Who and the Stones live my ears were never the same.
Ningaloo
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I haven't seen anyone suggest that on a 26ft boat a fixed VHF might not be needed. I'd be tempted to just get a good quality handheld (with DSC). I think that as a single hander it is essential to have the VHF in the cockpit and for a 26ft boat the cost of something like the B&G fixed units with wireless repeaters (£500+) might be too much.,
PaulRainbow
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That's because boat size has nothing to do with the need, or otherwise, of a fixed VHF. Handhelds have very limited range, if sailing a few miles offshore or in areas of poor reception, it isn't going to be much use. No need to spend a fortune, fixed SH sets are cheap as chips. The 1400 GPS is about £170, less than the DSC handheld.
