colind3782
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This has been visited before but what's the current thinking on the best re-proofing "spray" for a Berghaus Goretex jacket. Before anyone suggests binning it and buying new, that's not happening for various reasons.
Re-proofing a goretex jacket?
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harvey38
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A quick Google found this - Our Revivex Durable is a water repellent spray that helps restore DWR on GORE-TEX fabrics as well as other waterproof, breathable fabrics like eVent and NeoShell
Sandy
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I use this stuff and it works for me. My MPX kit is over 10 years old and as good as the day I bought it. It gets treated once or twice a year depending on the state of the kit.
Stuff your kit in the machine, add the Tech Wash, repeat with the TX.Direct.
Stuff your kit in the machine, add the Tech Wash, repeat with the TX.Direct.
dunedin
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Have used Grangers Wash & Repel then Repel Plus for many years on both boat and walking gear. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grangers-E...pel&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1733650138&sr=8-8
Chiara’s slave
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You’ve tried the manufacturers recommendation of tumble drying? The warmth reactivates the DWR, til theres none left of course, at which point you do what the others have suggested.
Minerva
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Yes and no - if there is any trace of your day to day washing powder in the machine gubbins then that detergent will destroy your goretex.
I seem to remember the recommendation is to do an empty, hot long wash to clean out the machine before the tech wash.
dunedin
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I haven’t noticed that as an issue in practice - provided the machine is in good shape.
My Musto Goretex oilskins are 20 years old and still fine for Scottish weather after annual Grangers treatment last 10 years or so
Boathook
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I've never had any real success with reproofing my sailing kit or other waterproof jackets.
The washing machine has done a cleaning cycle. the soap dispenser draw is washed, etc. I sometimes wonder whether it is the lack of a tumble dryer, though the last reproofing said a tumble dryer wasn't required.
The washing machine has done a cleaning cycle. the soap dispenser draw is washed, etc. I sometimes wonder whether it is the lack of a tumble dryer, though the last reproofing said a tumble dryer wasn't required.
Sandy
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Yes that is on the washing instructions.
One trick is to time the washing of your Gortex just after you give your machine that special 'clean the machine' wash. Ideally when your better half is out for the day and before you stuff three halyards, two sheets and some mooring warps in.
TrondS
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I strongly recommend using the spray version of this one, and not the "wash in".
The wash-in will reduce the capability for the Goretex to breathe the moisture from the inside of the jacket.
Laser310
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It might be worth looking at your jacket to see if the fabric is still okay.
In my experience, if the goretex is de-laminated, you can not make it waterproof again with any of these sprays. there are a variety of de-lamination symptoms. Sometimes you can hold the fabric layers apart with your fingers. sometimes you see a "wrinkly" texture where it is de-laminated, and sometimes all you see is a different color or shading to the inner layer..
When you buy goretex gear for sailing, note which level of goretex fabric is used.
less expensive goretex gear uses the "basic" goretex.
I know of two higher level goretex fabrics, but there may be more. These are goretex pro and goretex mil spec
Both pro and milspec garments are always warranted for the life of the product - which can be many years.
it is my understanding that this guarantee is underwritten by the gore company, not the garment manufacturer.
So, Musto MPX is goretex pro - it says it on the MPX garments. Some of the Mustang gear uses milspec.
I recently had my Musto MPX salpettes replaced under warranty (for the second time) because the fabric had de-laminated.
I have had many other goretex pro garments replaced under warranty.
you pay more for pro - but you get a better garment, and might get it replaced.
In my experience, if the goretex is de-laminated, you can not make it waterproof again with any of these sprays. there are a variety of de-lamination symptoms. Sometimes you can hold the fabric layers apart with your fingers. sometimes you see a "wrinkly" texture where it is de-laminated, and sometimes all you see is a different color or shading to the inner layer..
When you buy goretex gear for sailing, note which level of goretex fabric is used.
less expensive goretex gear uses the "basic" goretex.
I know of two higher level goretex fabrics, but there may be more. These are goretex pro and goretex mil spec
Both pro and milspec garments are always warranted for the life of the product - which can be many years.
it is my understanding that this guarantee is underwritten by the gore company, not the garment manufacturer.
So, Musto MPX is goretex pro - it says it on the MPX garments. Some of the Mustang gear uses milspec.
I recently had my Musto MPX salpettes replaced under warranty (for the second time) because the fabric had de-laminated.
I have had many other goretex pro garments replaced under warranty.
you pay more for pro - but you get a better garment, and might get it replaced.
Aja
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Just for clarity. 'Goretex' is not waterproof. I contend that washing does not do anything to the breathability. I also prefer sprays
michael_w
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Fabsil worked a treat on my Flying Fifteen's cover, so I've tried it on my oilies. I've never had any success with the Nikwax products. Personally, I think Gore-Tex is something of con. How can something be breathable and waterproof at the same time?
Mister E
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You need to get the salts and other dirt from the fabric to get the material to stop wetting out. That is what the specialist cleaners do but without leaving contaminants.
TrondS
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It is due to the size differences between water molecules and sweat.
Sandy
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I've been treating my kit with the NicWax stuff for years and have no plans on changing.
Never had a problem with Gortex not breathing. Sailing is a lot less 'sweaty' than mountaineering and no standing about in freezing gullies belaying your climbing partner or hauling a stretcher with a casualty on it.
Sandy
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Its magic...
Before Gortex I used a cagoule and waterproof trousers that were usually wetter inside than outside after a day/night on the hill. I would hang it up in the garage and let it drip dry. Never done that with Gortex as it sheds water due to the proofing and is not wet on the inside.
I first saw the product in about 1980/1 at Plas y Brenin where a Canadian instructor had some of the kit, he kindly lent it to me for 24 hours, as it was very, very new and I had not seen it before. I was extremely cynical about it, but was very, very impressed.
michael_w
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It might work on a mountain but I've found it hopeless on a dark night, a force 7 and a lumpy seaway. I guess on a mountain you don't spend much time sitting in a puddle ...
Aja
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Its magic...
Before Gortex I used a cagoule and waterproof trousers that were usually wetter inside than outside after a day/night on the hill. I would hang it up in the garage and let it drip dry. Never done that with Gortex as it sheds water due to the proofing and is not wet on the inside.
I first saw the product in about 1980/1 at Plas y Brenin where a Canadian instructor had some of the kit, he kindly lent it to me for 24 hours, as it was very, very new and I had not seen it before. I was extremely cynical about it, but was very, very impressed.
My mum bought a Simpson Lawrence Goretex® yellow suit from Crocket's the Ironmongers on West Nile Street, Glasgow.
That would have been early to mid 70's. About two sizes too big.
Donald Crocket was a good salesman.
Sandy
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Errr ummm, I spend quite a lot of time out in dark and stormy nights. Sounds like you are sitting in the wrong place, do your seats not drain any of the green stuff that enters the cockpit or the clear stuff that falls out of the sky?
I'll take it you have not done much mountaineering in the UK.
