Project Persevere 82 Ft of wooden craftwork

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cheers Joe
 
Now how am I supposed to do that , everyone knows that the captain is not the same as the skipper , the one that made the decision was SWMBO , or Louise , and if you think you can get her to allow me to use her as an Avatar , be my guest and start persuading , love her , and her pic would look good , but I'll let you ask
 
Dave Just do it /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gifIt's your Ship eg D&L just do it /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

cheers M8 Joe

ps where is the ship PM me Pls
 
"Perseverance 82' is far too busy. His boat is a major task and leaves him little time to mess about wiv forums.
His best buddy 'trevera25' is kindly keeping us informed/amused on his behalf.
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Rampton medical facility,I 'll visit Dave in about a year /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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cheers Joe
 
The larger P/T machines will need a fork lift to move them and cost a pretty penny . I was thinking you where going to use it onboard so needed to be able to put it to one side when not in use ? If i where you id go for a bench top range of tools , ok they have alley beds and are not the best but you could kit your self out with a full work shop for the price of two larger machines . The jet range from axminster tools may be worth a look. Having said that take a look at what size timbers your going to need to cut , once you know that you know what to look for .
 
I have a cheepo bench top and it will do small work up 10ft x 3x2 anything bigger is overloading it. I am fortunate having a good timber workshop near by for my bigger work ie Oak frames and deck beams 8ft x 6in x 3" and old science lab bench tops 12ft x 2ft x 1 1/4" trimmed down to 1".
"Persevere_82" (new name and Avatar Cheers Dave nice one) will be machining heaver timbers than that and possibly quite a lot. Having said that a small P/T 230v on board would no doubt be very useful.
What Doe's "Victorious" have to say He's been there and done it. My own project is tiny by comparison but I have been in heavy engineering most of my working life.
 
Just to update (sort of) , name and avatar change as requested , thanks Kieth . Trevera25 is my trusty 25ft Birchwood Interceptor that will be acting as accomodation and gofer vessel whilst works are underway. Name change is to comply with forum rules (the more significant vessel rule) , it looks like The Crouch will be the destination for at least the first stage of works , exact location will be decided sunday as we are working on Trevera today . Power tools ? , I have access to 3 phase at home , generator (about 4KW) will be with me , as mobile . If Victorious can give advice on this issue I know he will , but he's still quite busy , so all advice is welcome , let it flow chaps . Don't want to waste money , and time buying something that is likely to blow up when it sees the scale of the task .
 
Have a look here http://www.jmjwood.co.uk It doesn't show any current stock, but maybe you can find a similar business in your area.

If you give JMJ a call ask for John Jenkinson. He's the son-in-law of a old friend of mine. ("Phil Brown from the Motor Club", would jog his memory) He may be able to suggest a suitable machine type and source as he buys from all over.
 
More advice needed , no surprise there
After over 270 miles of driving on Sunday, round various possible moorings, we have a possible mud berth mooring at one of the Yacht Haven sites in South Essex , but they seem to want rather a lot of money , for what is basically a bit of mud on the banks of the Crouch , North Fambridge for those that know it . I''m told that this company tend to have high charges anyway, but they are trying to encourage Thames Sail Barges away from Maldon, so I wonder if anyone has dealt with them and can advise if they are likely to haggle or not . It looks like the tug will be doing its bit around the 29th / 30th April , and moving Persevere over to the other side of the Thames , but I'll update this closer to the time . Is there anyone likely to be in the area with cameras / video , I'm hoping to be on board for the crossing so I'll be a little pre-occupied. Maldon has been ruled out as a possible, after a brief chat with one of the barge workers, I'm afraid that I would rather go it alone and seek advice / help from the museums and other places . Didn't like the place at all.
Cheers Dave
All info on Yacht Havens appreciated

P.S. I'm not always moaning about money, but I prefer to spend it on timber and the like , on a positive note , Persevere has a resident

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how long has she been in her current mud berth?

I've read the whole post and I'm not sure how fragile she is.

Recently a 70 ft MFV was moved out of a long term mud berth on the hamble, where she had happily been going up and down in the tide with people living on board, a diver said all looked ok so she was taken under tow for the west country, she got to the western end of the solent and sank, maybe she sprung a plank but I did hear a theory that once the mud washed off the caulking gave out!

Maybe you could give us a idea of the pumps/expanding foam/air bags/big tarps you have planned to support the move?

I have trouble sometimes with the logistics of my 20 and 23 footers.
 
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She's been on the same berth for forty years doing the up down routine ,so the thought of leaks had more than crossed my mind. I have one tug company that's talking of putting pumps and generators on board before the tow, and his insurance doesn't cover Persevere, and another tug company that will move her from the Swale to Crouch , but I have to get her out of Conyer , and the people at Blackdens moorings want to see some insurance to cover thier boats , which Persevere will have to go past , before they will let the move take place ? . Confused ? I am , anyone any ideas for an insurance company that will cover Persevere , and anyone know of any more tug people ? . Oh where is Mr. Tug Man when you need him ? .

Re Roland , I'm surprised that only one has been seen , but more surprised at his lack of fear . Just poses for the picture
 
Excellent project!!

Obviously you will need lots of timber. have a poke about now to find thicknesses of planking, deck etc, then go out and buy some timber. Buy it green, a butt (tree) or five at a time, get it sawn to your required thicknesses. Put it in stick to season. By the time you need it it will be ready for use. Buying green timber is about a quarter of the price of seasoned. Also find a local shipwright who has worked on barges before.....saves a LOT of think time and doing things wrong.
Great plot, great boat, get going!!
 
It takes as a rule of thumb a year per inch (thick)to season your own timber and dont forget to seal the ends to stop splitting . Not a bad idea but i dont think the savings are that great , but i could be wrong .
 
Don't know about the savings....

But for interior work, it might guarantee consistency of grain, and open up options for very beuatiful reverse grain patterns etc etc...

A colleagues son is building a boat at the moment (a Van de Stadt) and has just bought a tree for exactly this reason!
 
Book matching looks nice but you have to be careful of cupping . I prefer to buy seasoned timber and get it milled up then match the grain . Too many things can go wrong if you try it yourself .... But then i get paid for what i do so going back to sort a problem out is a pain so i charge the extra for the timber . If i where to do it for myself maybe the risk is worth it .
Ive only heard of book matching veneer and buying a tree to mill up wont give you the same grain pattern or colour match .
 
The only real problem with the idea of matching finishes is that , they wouldn't have used veneer 117 Yrs ago , mind you , they wouldn't have the problems with insurance that I'm having either , , Hi guys , I'm here really
 
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