Project Persevere 82 Ft of wooden craftwork

Re: Project Persevere 82 Ft of wooden craft work

Thanks for all the comments guys, I think the combination of a hard week then the shock of this figure got to me. I do not intend giving up, but it's a bit of a let down when I see comments on the forum about me 'bangin on about that boat' , so it's fresh head on and move forward. She will be in the Crouch / Southend area so anyone know anyone, as always much appreciated. One of the problems we have is that she hasn't moved for forty years and nobody can say how much work is needed below the waterline, although the underside should be well pickled in salt water, and some planking was renewed a few years ago. We're off to another marina / boatyard next weekend to see what they have to offer , but at least thier prices are better
 
Re: Project Persevere 82 Ft of wooden craft work

Years ago (about 1976) I was on the delivery crew that took 'Kitty' from the Thames to Chichester harbour, where she was used as restaurant for years before being restored to her former glory for charters from Port Solent.

Now, she was in sailing condition, but the work that was needed to make her truly sea worthy was well beyond anything I would consider.

You've got your work cut out and I take my hat off to you.

Good luck!
 
Re: Project Persevere 82 Ft of wooden craft work

Hi Dave.
Surely there must be some where on the Crouch you can take her to, a farmers field must come down to the river, is it worth knocking on doors. I do not known the area all that well. My G.U.Laws 30 ft Mercia III all tho built at Kingston-on- Thames originally, did sail from Burnham-on-Crouch. The only yard I know of is Kings or their successors, I would imagine it is still a boat yard. But as I say I don't know the area. I was very Lucky I took Mercia III home to my own back yard and 10ft from my workshop door. Do you have the space at your home, mind you the transport would cost, but if it is not out of the question the benefit would be worth it.
Cheers David.
 
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Unfortunately , she needs to be worked on relatively local before moving into open waters, too many risks , but as we used to say , Per Ardua Ad Astra , (how long before that gets put right by the Latin experts I wonder ) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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This looks like breaking records for the longest thread! It certainly seems to have captured peoples' imagination.

Several years ago I visited a sailing barge museum at Sittingbourne and there were several barges being restored there. If it still exists it might be a good place to get ideas.

Also there was a series of TV programmes a while ago called Salvage Squad. One dealt with restoring a barge and I seem to remember they had her in some kind of floating dock. If you could get the use of that, or one like it, you could perhaps get her hull made water tight, after which things would be easier [relatively speaking!!]
 
Re: Project Persevere 82 Ft of wooden craft work

Ive not seen comments about you bangin on about that boat . And if there are ..... Its a bloody boating forum ! Bang on all you want mate . Oh and more pics please /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I've resized the history and cleaned it a bit, but the original has been over-sharpened so there's not a lot to be done.
The timber merchants in Hull are Barchards. Look at the table at the bottom of this page http://www.covboat.demon.co.uk/sustainability.htm

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I think we would all agree that this is a most laudable enterprise,but at thisage with a 1o,ooobill before starting are you convinced that this is what you really want to do,it possible you could be 15 years at it,and to be useable it would have to be under constant survey supervision to meet the regulatory bodys seaworthy requirements.As it is it makesa great second home and has historic value ,I must admit I dont loose sleep over it but having seen a friend defeated by his Baltic Trader I have to speak up.
 
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Thanks very much for all of that Lakesailor, marked improvement on my post

And Mogy , yes , it is a daunting task . But in my shortish lifetime , as some know , I have been to hell and back on more than one occasion. I have lost everything , literally, and had to fight back each time . I'm not the quiting kind , and if I have to spend what's left of my life trying to gt this done , because it's worth doing , I'll do it . Thanks, and on a lighter note , , HEEEEELP /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Only 15 min prog but enjoyable. Hope they put it on Listen Again.
 
Re: Project Persevere 82 Ft of wooden craft work

Dave

Don`t dismiss what mogy say`s .

Unless you have bottomless pockets it could all end in tears
You seem surprised that you were asked for a surety. Truth is boatyards around our coast are littered with unfinished projects. I have seen them towed out to mudflats when the moorings are not paid. Though they usually end up in the hands of the boatyard, who strip out any goodies, then torch the hull.
But then I have seen a Baltic trader done in the 80`s alongside in Cobb`s with an army of skilled workmen and no expense spared, that was a joy to watch.

I believe a project of this size can only be undertaken by a group of people.
Of course You haven’t said whether you have put the money aside to pay for it. but if you haven’t

Take a few deep breaths, take stock, talk to the right people (including your bank manager) and give yourself a 1 month cooling off period. Then hopefully the reality will sink in, one way or another.
 
Re: Project Persevere 82 Ft of wooden craft work

Oh please believe me , I most certainly am not ignoring Mogy , valid points , and no I don't have bottomless pockets , but I do have plenty of other things on my side , and also don't have the financial commitments that hold many back from doing something like this . I am also aware that it's not an overnight job, to do it properly , we are talking years , how many , we will not know until I get her completely out of the water , but even if the bottom was completely rotten which it isn't , I still wouldn't give up.
Remind me of that in twelve months please /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Re: Project Persevere 82 Ft of wooden craft work

Dave, couple of points. yes i am involve in BIG projects in Ireland and uk.
probably the most financially viable way to work on this is to buy your own lighter. cut the end off float the barge in and then weld her up again. this system has been used for several barges in the past.eg cambria, also Oak has been broken up lately at the Dolphin yard (ian ruffles would be the man to talk to)she had a lighter prepared for her. also the yard at lowestoft (excelsior sailing trust) should be of help. also webs at pinmill are also in the barge restoration business.
on another note the owners of Cambria have a 1 million pound application to heritage lottery funding in motion!! this is to restore her to sailing condition.
however im sure we all know the stories of restoration on boats which were beyond hope , kathleen and may, pioneer etc, all it takes is a man with vision and the determination to see it to the end.

mick b
 
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Thanks , that's more very useful info and contacts , still not decided exactly where to take her yet , and although I am giving myself the suggested cooling off period , your post is very encouraging . And thanks to another forum member , I have a possible source for rigging , lee boards etc. , so all is still looking encouraging . Thanks to all
 
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Whats happening Dave?Any further progress,as I can't let you just sit at 97 posts and not get your first century /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

cheers and Good Luck with your Ship..Joe
 
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Sorry to keep you waiting , /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif, been ringing round for tug quotes and moorings . Tug quotes vary from £650-00 to £2,000-00 , so it's worth shopping around , and it looks like she'll be going to Essex ,there's a marina in the Crouch area that has mud berths , and special rates for Thames Sail Barges . All looking good so far, and off to look over a few things this weekend, but also following Mogy's suggestion . Although I own her, once I start paying for things like a tug , then there's no turning back, so I'm cooling off. Another five minutes and I'll have cooled enough to book it . /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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