snowleopard
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It seems the US navy has finally taken active steps about pirates instead of the useual routine of leaving them to get on with it. See here. I wonder what the pirates were attacking at the time.
Piracy - action at last
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bobfrost
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the US navy has finally taken active steps
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What do you mean finally?????
Once again the USA has to act as the policeman of the civilised world. Or has everyone else ordered the 'wrong sort of boats' for these waters? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
the US navy has finally taken active steps
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What do you mean finally?????
Once again the USA has to act as the policeman of the civilised world. Or has everyone else ordered the 'wrong sort of boats' for these waters? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
tcm
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Creep! I'm with snowleopard, they are flippin useless that US Navy. I called them whilst i was in the med to help me do some antifouling and they didn't lift a finger.
Tisme
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Didn't they? They were very helpful when I called them. Polished my topsides as well. When they left they simply said "All part of the service, Sir".
You must have upset them somehow. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
You must have upset them somehow. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
FullCircle
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We need a UN resolution on this piracy stuff.
Set up a Gung Ho 'peacekeeping' force equipped with confiscated ex-drug run powerboats and helicopters with latest spiffo armaments, supplemented with a few converted Minesweepers or similar.
Establish a few bases where the beach and local nightlife is quite decent, and get people to volunteer their services for 6 month tours.
To offset the cost, the bases could be very nicely done out as holiday chalets etc, and have Joe Public pay good wedge from setting up Dive schools, Sailing Schools and other Watersports activities.
Could even make a profit with confiscating the pirates kit and their booty.
Set up a Gung Ho 'peacekeeping' force equipped with confiscated ex-drug run powerboats and helicopters with latest spiffo armaments, supplemented with a few converted Minesweepers or similar.
Establish a few bases where the beach and local nightlife is quite decent, and get people to volunteer their services for 6 month tours.
To offset the cost, the bases could be very nicely done out as holiday chalets etc, and have Joe Public pay good wedge from setting up Dive schools, Sailing Schools and other Watersports activities.
Could even make a profit with confiscating the pirates kit and their booty.
tcm
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i wonder if perhaps your topsides were in such a grave state that they constituted a regional biological hazard tho? You will also find they'll have left little fabric-covered dolls of politicians in the saloon - a "puppet government".
Talbot
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Totally agree. This is an international problem and there are frequently warships from a lot of different countries going to/from the gulf, who pass through these waters. It would not take a lot of effort to co-ordinate this and stamp out hese pirates.
Piracy and slavery are 18-19th Century phenomenoms that are still happening all around the world with little in the way of effort to stamp out. Its a disgrace!
Piracy and slavery are 18-19th Century phenomenoms that are still happening all around the world with little in the way of effort to stamp out. Its a disgrace!
snowleopard
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Many previous reports of piracy in the Bab el Mandeb area have said that despite victims contacting warships (of various nations) in the area, the general response has been minimal and certainly not to go after the pirates. Result: the pirates feel free to act with impunity.
I'm not suggesting that the American navy should appoint themselves as policemen but that warships of any nation in the vicinity of a pirate attack should take positive action.
I'm not suggesting that the American navy should appoint themselves as policemen but that warships of any nation in the vicinity of a pirate attack should take positive action.
Tisme
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How dare you imply that I keep dolls on my boat, sir. Other than SWMBO's teddy bear I assure you that I run my boat on strictly hairy-arsed MCP lines. I have even banned lavender coloured loo paper.
I am shocked at your accusation and shall be using the "ignore this user" button for all your future postings. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
I am shocked at your accusation and shall be using the "ignore this user" button for all your future postings. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
tazzle
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Quite agree - or revive the old practice of the government licencing privateers and / or paying 'head money' for the pirates. I expect whole crews could be found from the bored adrenaline-and-bling starved young men from London's council estates in return for a cut of the booty with the lions share going to the vessel's owner, natch.
Cuts domestic crime rates and deals with piracy at the same time - and doesn't cost the taxpayer a penny
Cuts domestic crime rates and deals with piracy at the same time - and doesn't cost the taxpayer a penny
winship
Active Member
A sad indication of how far U.K has slipped down the 'International league table' During the 1950s the USN maintained one small ship based in Bahrein, The Valcour or Greenwich Bay. The Indian Ocean and Persian Gulf was patroled by the R.N. East Indies Fleet based in Trincomalee and Bahrein. Usually a Colony class cruiser and two Frigates/Red sea sloops. Don't recollect any Piracy problems then. Not many cruise ships or yachts to tempt them!
Sea Devil
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Snowleopard thanks for that report -
As you know I feel very strongly that the US navy let me down personally, by not 'arresting' the pirates who attacked and robbed me then attacked more yachts a week later. A US navy frigate actually made the pirate boats heave to - circled them and then went away....
I suppose the fact 30 odd people were drowned last year, following an attack, the crew of a yacht were murdered and the cruiser's liner attack getting world wide press coverage, has made the US take some action at long last.
Countries with warships in international waters have an obligation to defend all craft from pirate attack under international maritime law... Up to now the US navy, who are the 'senior' coalition navy in the Gulf of Aden area, have ducked this obligation. I am actually quite pro America but am saddened they choose to wait until people had to die unnecessarily before they fulfilled their obligations.
Michael
As you know I feel very strongly that the US navy let me down personally, by not 'arresting' the pirates who attacked and robbed me then attacked more yachts a week later. A US navy frigate actually made the pirate boats heave to - circled them and then went away....
I suppose the fact 30 odd people were drowned last year, following an attack, the crew of a yacht were murdered and the cruiser's liner attack getting world wide press coverage, has made the US take some action at long last.
Countries with warships in international waters have an obligation to defend all craft from pirate attack under international maritime law... Up to now the US navy, who are the 'senior' coalition navy in the Gulf of Aden area, have ducked this obligation. I am actually quite pro America but am saddened they choose to wait until people had to die unnecessarily before they fulfilled their obligations.
Michael
snowleopard
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Thanks for that - exactly the point I was trying to make.
tcm
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** you are ignoring this user you forgetful twit **
Tisme
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Is somebody saying something? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Birdseye
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A US cruise ship was attacked. People complained to their Senators. Unless you are American, you dont have a Senator, dont pay US taxes and dont matter.
tcm
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** you still are ignoring this user you forgetful twit. And his last post was really interesting - he gave away a load of free stuff including spares for your boat and suchlike for no reason at all! No, don't bother trying to undo the user options cos you can't ever see the post, ever. So har har, that'll learnya. **
Tisme
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Still can't hear. He never says anything interesting anyhow. It's not even as if he is giving free spares away. That's why I'm ignoring him. Mean old git.
Twister_Ken
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Unbelievable
Anybody else flinch at this bit?
"The Somali government has signed a $50m (£28m) two-year deal with a private US marine security company to carry out coastal patrols."
A) I thought Somalia had no effective government
B) 50 million greenbacks buys an awful lot of seed corn, drills lots of wells, provides lots of basic healthcare, etc.
C) I'd rather the money was spent on helping the Somalis (not that it would be, in all probability) than in building the profits of some US corporation that's got hold of a coupla gunboats and some gungho ex-military adrenaline junkies.
D) As for yachtsmen, don't sail close to the Somali coast. In fact, why bother with the Arabian seas at all.
Anybody else flinch at this bit?
"The Somali government has signed a $50m (£28m) two-year deal with a private US marine security company to carry out coastal patrols."
A) I thought Somalia had no effective government
B) 50 million greenbacks buys an awful lot of seed corn, drills lots of wells, provides lots of basic healthcare, etc.
C) I'd rather the money was spent on helping the Somalis (not that it would be, in all probability) than in building the profits of some US corporation that's got hold of a coupla gunboats and some gungho ex-military adrenaline junkies.
D) As for yachtsmen, don't sail close to the Somali coast. In fact, why bother with the Arabian seas at all.
