Our first year, and now we have a dilema.

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I know some on here have followed our journey from the beginning as boat less wannabe's, so I thought I would give an account of our first year of boating. :)

After deciding on non tidal cruising to start us off, the boat choice ended up with the option to go tidal later as our experience and confidence grew.

Our lovely newly acquired Sealine 305 Statesman (which would be great for tidal later) was duly pampered, and kitted out accordingly. Engine and stern drive work, antifouling, batteries, battery charger etc etc to start us off, later heating and the worst job of all sorting out the stinky toilet. :D

We took time to go out and practise our handling skills, Hubby and son doing a lot better than me due to my lack of confidence and constant worry we may hit something. :eek: LOL
We watched hire boaters making mistakes and felt very much like them at first, but with our experience now, we find them either hilarious or dammed scary. Rowers for the most part have been OK, with the odd incident when they decide to take over the whole river and sit there. I think the best one was returning from pangbourne in a line of three boats a rower overtook us just before the lock then commented “You were going to fast on that stretch” to which hubby replied “No, but we did have a nice clear run with no rowers in the way” That stopped the conversation dead. :D

I was an embarrassment for a short while, giving manic instructions to whoever was at the helm whenever we entered a lock or went to moor up. This lead to a few teeth gritted discussions until I learned to keep my mouth shut and just try to smile. It worked, and I soon realised my wonderful hubby and son had learned basic boat handling skills while I had only learnt to throw ropes. (Quite an important skill, handy to stop the boat floating away. :D ) From then on we relaxed and really started to enjoy our time on the river.
We have taken every opportunity to go out and about, sometimes just a short day trip but best of all the long weekends which gave us time to get much further up the river.
We have met some wonderful people and made a load of new friends/acquaintances. We learnt to wave at everyone and start up conversations with complete strangers. We are hooked. :D

Now to our dilemma....

We love our boat; we love the layout, and all the storage, including a few secret ones. ;). It’s in great condition for its age. (We know that after seeing so many others before). We have our stuff organised and cleaning is easy. It has become our second home....
BUT!!
There’s just too many of us and it’s cramped. We have no problem on a day out but a weekend away is really difficult as it’s really 6 adults each time (we have had 7). Our 4 kids are grown and don’t like the idea of sharing a bed (especially with the epileptic octopus snoring one!)

So hubby and I have been talking... We think we need a bigger boat!!!

I feel quite sad right now, is it normal to get attached to a boat and feel bad about perhaps selling it? I know it will be a good thing to have a boat that meets our space needs, but we have put a lot into this one it's part of the family... Funny really.. :o
 
You could find the same issues with a 37 footer...

If you want to bring four adult guests who don't like sharing a bed, you'll need a very very large boat indeed! :D
 
You could find the same issues with a 37 footer...

If you want to bring four adult guests who don't like sharing a bed, you'll need a very very large boat indeed! :D

May have to buy a large yacht then... :D

Seriously though John, we have grown attached and feel a bit sad on deciding we may sell her, especially as we have put a lot into her to make her nice inside and reliable mechanically.
You have met our kids, so can understand the issue they have. With a bigger boat we could have bunks or twin berths that would solve the problem.
We know a bigger boat, possible a Broom Monarch 39 type would give us a lot more room. Before you point it out, yes I do know they cost quite a bit more... :D
 
I know just what you mean about getting attached to the blessed things! :D

You'll get a lot more space with a large Broom, but still shared sleeping areas...is that going to be an issue?

Don't forget the standing charges jump up by a few grand a year too, you'll possibly be stuck for mooring spaces too. Choose wisely ;)
 
I know just what you mean about getting attached to the blessed things! :D

You'll get a lot more space with a large Broom, but still shared sleeping areas...is that going to be an issue?

Don't forget the standing charges jump up by a few grand a year too, you'll possibly be stuck for mooring spaces too. Choose wisely ;)

We have looked into costs allready, so fully aware on that side..

Having sleeping areas is not an issue. We have been looking and noted that it is possible to get a layout with four single beds and one double, thats not including the saloon so we could sleep eight in comfort. We are definately just talking right now though and will be researching extensively before deciding our best options.

I have heard that it is becoming difficult to find larger moorings.. Will have to look into it.

Sitting here typing this though, my head is saying.. No No, you like your Viva too much... LOL:rolleyes:
 
I do not think a Broom Monarch is the answer. Looked at the one at RYB the weekend looks so dated and only two bedrooms. The better option would be a Broom Ocean 42 like this one for sale http://www.broomboats.com/boat-brokerage-norfolk.php
We used to own this boat and had our honeymoon on her back in 1989 when she was moored in the Med. Its huge inside, double beds at both ends and a twin cabin. The saloon also sleeps three.

Happy hunting

Geoff
 
Are you more attached to the boat ......... or the kids :)

A 'modern' 37' - 40' AWB designed for the charter market will give you 3 double cabins and saloon accommodation for 1 or two adults. It gets crowded with more than 4 or 5 on a boat that sized though.
 
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I do not think a Broom Monarch is the answer. Looked at the one at RYB the weekend looks so dated and only two bedrooms. The better option would be a Broom Ocean 42 like this one for sale http://www.broomboats.com/boat-brokerage-norfolk.php
We used to own this boat and had our honeymoon on her back in 1989 when she was moored in the Med. Its huge inside, double beds at both ends and a twin cabin. The saloon also sleeps three.

Happy hunting

Geoff

See.. This is exactly why we need to research.... Thanks for that.

42' is huge. I will have to look into height restriction regarding bridges and draft.

I have seen a few that have one cabin with bunk beds, another with two singles and then the main double cabin, this doesn't include the saloon that could also be used for sleeping. Obviously we would lose space in the cabins for storage, but that shouldn't be an issue.

I just said to hubby that I love our boat and feel quite sad... He gave me a look that seemed to say... "I love you, but I have nothing to say, you are very sweet"... Hahahahahaha. Then he walked away.. :D
 
Are you more attached to the boat ......... or the kids :)

A 'modern' 37' - 40' AWB designed for the charter market will give you 3 double cabins and saloon accommodation for 1 or two adults. It gets crowded with more than 4 or 5 on a boat that sized though.

Hmmmmm. Has to be the kids.... ;) But the boat is soooo nice... :D No the kids definately... I will have to research costs though... Hahahahah.

Average white boat... Is that like a hire boat design??? or the older boats with the sliding roof and centre helm position?? If so not for us..

We know we want a boat that will fit on the Thames without too much of a height or draft issue, but will also hold it's own for tidal use and fit us all in it... :D

I am making a list... :eek:

Hubby is watching leverage on TV... :cool:
 
Trouble is, you won't be the first people who's children have deserted them shortly after buying a larger boat...:o

Cue Ramage...:D
 
Trouble is, you won't be the first people who's children have deserted them shortly after buying a larger boat...:o

Cue Ramage...:D



Thing is though... If they leave us we could just sell the house,(so they can't move back) buy a small appartment and spend summer on the big boat and winter in the apartment... :D;)

Awaiting Ramage... :D
 
You don't really have a dilemma, you know. You are simply following a course that many here have been down before and, whatever we advise, you will end up doing whatever you decide to do and living with the consequences.

You don't NEED a bigger boat - you WANT a bigger boat and arguments about accommodating all the kids and their passing fancies is your way of justifying the want.

Make life less comfortable for the kids and keep a boat you have gone to great lengths to bring up to standard and grown to like - you know it makes sense :D

PS - for a small but very reasonable fee you can borrow my boat for a weekend. You will then realise just how much space you actually have :D

PPS - No, belay that. I've just got it looking just how I want it......
 
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You don't really have a dilemma, you know. You are simply following a course that many here have been down before and, whatever we advise, you will end up doing whatever you decide to do and living with the consequences.

You don't NEED a bigger boat - you WANT a bigger boat and arguments about accommodating all the kids and their passing fancies is your way of justifying the want.

Make life less comfortable for the kids - you know it makes sense :D

Honestly.... Room is a big issue and the reason we are at this stage. I do agree that wanting a bigger boat comes into the equation also, but is not the reason we will sell.

The kids love the boat and us being able to go away together is wonderful. We are lucky we have kids that actually like spending time with us. I know it will change in time, but thats when we make home uncomfortable so they move out... :D

Your boat and all of us..... :D
 
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Honestly.... Room is a big issue and the reason we are at this stage. I do agree that wanting a bigger boat comes into the equation also, but is not the reason we will sell.

The kids love the boat and us being able to go away together is wonderful. We are lucky we have kids that actually like spending time with us. I know it will change in time, but thats when we make home uncomfortable so they move out... :D

You see ...... you've decided already :D
 
You were from the start just buying a tester boat whether you knew it or not, within a financial parameter and with great enthusiasm (as most of us did)
Now rule of thumb kicks in - get 2 more berths than you think you need.
Oh, and don't think that when the kids leave you will buy a smaller boat.:)
 
You were from the start just buying a tester boat whether you knew it or not, within a financial parameter and with great enthusiasm (as most of us did)
Now rule of thumb kicks in - get 2 more berths than you think you need.
Oh, and don't think that when the kids leave you will buy a smaller boat.:)

I agree our boat was a tester boat being completely new to boating. We did get quite a few :eek: looks and comments about our choice of boat being large for a first boat. We definately made the right choice though as she is lovely. Looking back I think had we started off with a smaller boat or one with less bells and whistles so to speak, we would not have caught the bug.

I think it's a girlie emotional thing getting attached to the boat, and I do know once it sells and we are looking for the next, emotions will change...

I think it's called the sparkly syndrome... :D:D
 
See.. This is exactly why we need to research.... Thanks for that.

42' is huge. I will have to look into height restriction regarding bridges and draft.

I have seen a few that have one cabin with bunk beds, another with two singles and then the main double cabin, this doesn't include the saloon that could also be used for sleeping. Obviously we would lose space in the cabins for storage, but that shouldn't be an issue.

I just said to hubby that I love our boat and feel quite sad... He gave me a look that seemed to say... "I love you, but I have nothing to say, you are very sweet"... Hahahahahaha. Then he walked away.. :D

No problem with bridges as the radar arch folds we had her on the Thames before shipping out to the Med. Lot of boat for the money and only 12 feet longer than yours.
 
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