Orca attack

[doug748]

In the event that I ever find myself sailing in those waters again I think I would make up a few small Siene nets and try to drop them over incoming Orcas to dissuade them and the others from attacking.

Can you get those percussive devices to lob overboard? The 'ole missus banging pans together get me scuttling off.

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[Fr J Hackett]

Can you get those percussive devices to lob overboard? The 'ole missus banging pans together get me scuttling off.

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I understand they are available in Spain but where I have no idea.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Why? Go into the Serengeti in a plastic camper van & get nibbled by a lion no one in authority will get a gun & start shooting. Go out into the ocean on a floating bit of plastic you're going into the wilderness.

But humans are such aggressive selfish destructive animals, so the forum calls of "kill them!" will no doubt continue...

You are wrong when there are man eating big cats or even rogue elephants they are culled.

 

[GHA]

yes your right of course in the overall view but if I had a boat and wanted to sail out round the Islas Cies on a Sunday afternoon I risk notcoming back

So to have a play on some floating plastic on a sunday afternoon we need to kill endangered apex ocean predators in their environment, not ours?

 

[Fr J Hackett]

So to have a play on some floating plastic on a sunday afternoon we need to kill endangered apex ocean predators in their environment, not ours?

Yes

 

[Wansworth]

I am sure orcas would feel the same if they wanted to cruise about on a Sunday afternoon and humans might swat them

 

[Fr J Hackett]

I am sure orcas would feel the same if they wanted to cruise about on a Sunday afternoon and humans might swat them

Indeed they would and do.

 

[doug748]

Yes

Indeed, I thought we were the apex predators?

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[GHA]

I am sure orcas would feel the same if they wanted to cruise about on a Sunday afternoon and humans might swat them

If they came into our land domain then of course, humans kill anything and everything.
But they don´t. we go to the wilderness afloat & into their domain.

 

[Wansworth]

If they came into our land domain then of course, humans kill anything and everything.
But they don´t. we go to the wilderness afloat & into their domain.

not Long ago man spend hundreds of years killing whales for the oil we now pay to see them wallowing about which I suppose is an improvement of man’s appreciation of his environment but we do seem to now like mammals more than we did would we feel the same about say an insect or a giant sea snake?

 

[Fr J Hackett]

If they came into our land domain then of course, humans kill anything and everything.
But they don´t. we go to the wilderness afloat & into their domain.

And need to protect ourselves.

 

[GHA]

not Long ago man spend hundreds of years killing whales for the oil we now pay to see them wallowing about which I suppose is an improvement of man’s appreciation of his environment but we do seem to now like mammals more than we did would we feel the same about say an insect or a giant sea snake?

insects don´t tend to be threatened species, not the ones we take fly spray to.
On the way to the boat would you be happy shoot and kill many tonnes of intelligent threatened species as payment to go for a little sunday sail, would you be willing to pull the trigger just to go for a sail?

 

[Fr J Hackett]

insects don´t tend to be threatened species, not the ones we take fly spray to.
On the way to the boat would you be happy shoot and kill many tonnes of intelligent threatened species as payment to go for a little sunday sail, would you be willing to pull the trigger just to go for a sail?

If they were attacking me yes. Hornets being a good example and as much as I like cats including the big ones them too if they were attacking me.

 

[Wansworth]

there is no doubt that if I was on my small yacht and had a means to stop the orcas attacking me I would,be it shooting of which I have know idea or banging sauspansbut I can safely say I couldn’t care a bit about magnificent noble beasts……..all a question of distance

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Maybe if they were actively discouraged and found out that it wasn't a good idea to attack yachts and other vessels they as intelligent creatures would learn and stop. By acquiescing to their aggression we are actively encouraging attacks, classic appeasement.

 

[Daydream believer]

If they came into our land domain then of course, humans kill anything and everything.
But they don´t. we go to the wilderness afloat & into their domain.

I get fed up with people saying that we are invading their domain. It is not just THEIR domain. We are every bit as entitled to use it as they are.

 

[RobbieW]

I get fed up with people saying that we are invading their domain. It is not just THEIR domain. We are every bit as entitled to use it as they are.

As a bit of balance, we need to use a mechnical contraption to go to sea. So thinking of that environment as our domain is fallacious, without some sort of protection we wouldnt last long Orca or no. The contraptions we use are exposed to the sort of damage the Orca inflict, perhaps we should be thinking about how better to protect them ? Swimming in shark infested waters without a cage often ends in tears

 

[Daydream believer]

As a bit of balance, we need to use a mechnical contraption to go to sea. So thinking of that environment as our domain is fallacious, without some sort of protection we wouldnt last long Orca or no. The contraptions we use are exposed to the sort of damage the Orca inflict, perhaps we should be thinking about how better to protect them ? Swimming in shark infested waters without a cage often ends in tears

A bit of balance?
Has it occurred to anyone that attacks have increased since the ban on whaling? Perhaps that would even the balace a bit.

 

[stranded]

I get fed up with people saying that we are invading their domain. It is not just THEIR domain. We are every bit as entitled to use it as they are.

Ah, an open borders man after my own heart.

 

[nortada]

Orcas communicate well so if we start a campaign to remove them from our areas of interest the ‘word’ may get out and orcas could start attacking all yachts on sight, possibly at night, when the odds are more heavily in their favour and eating the contents (we are about the same size as a seal). Not sure how prolific orcas are but in their own environment I would not like to offer odds on the outcome.