Ooops seem to have ended up in the Sunseeker sales office....

Yes I thought the grill seemed in a weird place.

From an aesthetic view point they look good in the brochure, but by the time you've strapped a tender to the back and fitted a bimini top to the flybridge they start to lose that sleek look.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think the new Azimut range have some really unique styling ideas. The 55S has no fly bridge the tender is in a garage so it retains that sleek look. Lots of funky interior design features too, but they might be bordering on the gimmicky rather than functional. Not sure about have 3 engines either....

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TwoHooter said:
<thread-drift>The thing about Nordhavns is that they are built to do one thing exceptionally well: cross oceans. Right now N52 Dirona, N47 Southern Starr, and N46 Starlet are on east-west trans Atlantic passages, another N46 is half way round its fourth circumnavigation, and those are just the ones I know about. Other small motorboats can cross oceans but you very rarely hear about them doing it. One slow-revving main engine with a big reduction to a big prop (plus emergency wing engine) = best possible mpg, that's why they are built like that. Our N40 carries 3,500 litres of fuel and has a 2,500 mile range. Everything on a Nordie is designed to appeal to people who want to cross oceans. That's why they are so different to the average modern motorboat.</thread-drift>
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Agree and understand all that but I've always thought that they're missing a section of their potential market by majoring so much on singles. I'm sure there are some boaters (ie me) who don't want an ocean crossing boat but who might consider a Nordy for extended coastal cruising and those boaters will mainly want twins for reasons of redundancy, prop fouling and ease of manouverability. I looked at that N64 at Southampton and I thought it was a fab boat in every way except that it had only one engine. I listened to the arguments of the Nordy staff regarding thrusters, big rudder etc but I think if I was helming that monster in a tight windswept marina, I'd want 2 engines not 1! The trouble with getting it wrong with a Nordy is that they are so heavily built that you could take out half the marina:eek:
 
Whitelighter said:
Is that a fold down grill at the stern? Bet that would never get used and a bit gimmicky but a nice looking machine.
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Saw one of those on the MC5 at SIBS in 2014. Can't understand it myself. Doesn't the tender get in the way of using it? Even if it doesn't, the thought of hot fat from your sausages splattering the teak deck and burning a hole in your hypalon doesn't appeal
 
Greenhorn said:
The 55S has no fly bridge the tender is in a garage so it retains that sleek look. Lots of funky interior design features too, but they might be bordering on the gimmicky rather than functional.
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Are you saying that you're now considering a boat with a sliding roof rather than a flybridge? It's up to you of course, but in the med in summer you want the wind in your hair without the sun on your head, and you can't do that with a hardtop, whether it's open or closed. You also have a nicer driving position with better visibility, and for these reasons I think you'll find most of the people on here who have owned 50'+ boats in the med for a while would recommend a flybridge over a hardtop every time.
 
Bow seating on boats this size isn't a new thing, we've had it on ours for years :D





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Nick_H said:
Are you saying that you're now considering a boat with a sliding roof rather than a flybridge? It's up to you of course, but in the med in summer you want the wind in your hair without the sun on your head, and you can't do that with a hardtop, whether it's open or closed. You also have a nicer driving position with better visibility, and for these reasons I think you'll find most of the people on here who have owned 50'+ boats in the med for a while would recommend a flybridge over a hardtop every time.
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I can see the benefits of a flybridge, although in my case it'll have to be wind in my face instead of hair. :)

I was pointing out the styling differences, whereas the flybridge ones look great in the brochure, reality is a bit different by the time you have all the extras on it.
 
A1GSS said:
Me too. Looked round the one at SIBS last year, very impressive indeed. Similar quality also available in many high end Dutch boats.
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Strangely I thought the one at Southampton was Hideous inside, a total train wreck. A shame as I like what they stand for and have seen all the videos etc. The Flemming astern of it was in a different league.

Henry :)
 
A1GSS said:
I didn't look at the Fleming. But "hideous" seems a bit strong :) What in particular?
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You are right, hideous is unfair but for me it was the disappointment of the show and I'll tell you why. Like a lot of people here I have this dream of setting off into the sunset and making my way around the world under my own steam. It will never happen because Mrs Henry F wouldn't fancy crossing oceans but there are parts of the world we can explore.

The Nordhavn is a go to boat for people with a yearning to cross oceans and I quite like it's purposeful lines. It looks like it means business. Running up to the show I watched all the videos of the Atlantic crossings, read blogs and studied the range, not with any intent to rush out and buy one but to fuel the fire of longing.

Then I went onboard. They layout just didn't flow. I got the sense that cabins were just stacked in like a Tetris game with these big steps going up and down. There was no sense to it all. The two cabins in the bow were just sort of crammed in and where one finished another started. It really didn't work for me and that burst the bubble.

I know that if you had one built you could have whatever layout you wanted but this just felt like a really old slightly grimy trawler from the 1970s. There was no finesse to it.

In contrast I thought the Fleming flowed really well, the bathrooms were lovely, there was attention to detail. I wasn't sure about the relationship between the upper helm and aft flybridge spaces but it felt a welcoming space inside.

I know there are no right and wrongs when it comes to these matters but I stepped off the Nordhavn really deflated. I wanted to fall in love but it turned me off immediately. Maybe that was just a one off I don't know.

Sorry if my choice of descriptive offended.

Henry :)
 
That's odd, Henry, because I got the exact opposite feeling.

Before SBS I was completely nonplussed by Nordhavns. Right turn off, I thought. Gimme summat sleek and sexy any day.

But then I went aboard that 64 and it all made sense. I absolutely loved it. Proper 'little ship' feel. I really, really wanted one! Best boat at the show for me.

The Princess 88 on the other side of the pontoon suddenly looked very showy indeed.
 
Greenhorn said:
Yes I thought the grill seemed in a weird place.

From an aesthetic view point they look good in the brochure, but by the time you've strapped a tender to the back and fitted a bimini top to the flybridge they start to lose that sleek look.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think the new Azimut range have some really unique styling ideas. The 55S has no fly bridge the tender is in a garage so it retains that sleek look. Lots of funky interior design features too, but they might be bordering on the gimmicky rather than functional. Not sure about have 3 engines either....

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I do like the look of that 'Hattan 52.
 
The thread drift here is getting a bit unfair, this is supposed to be Greenhorn's thread in which he can turn us all green with envy when he posts pictures of the boat he eventually chooses.

I'm going to start a Nordhavn thread for those that want to discuss Nordies.
 
TwoHooter said:
The thread drift here is getting a bit unfair, this is supposed to be Greenhorn's thread in which he can turn us all green with envy when he posts pictures of the boat he eventually chooses.
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Confused ere. As I read it greenhorn is asking for ideas on what boat he should eventually choose. The sunseeker isn't a done deal. So it's open season to talk about any boat IMHO.

Come to think of it greenhorn you should just browse online squadron 78s a few years old. Fits your budget and you'd get a huge amount of family living space, decent build quality, bulletproof caterpillar 32 litres, twin gensets. Some have stabilisation otherwise retrofit is very do able having been done to about ten of the fleet. You don't need that much living space for a week or two but if you're on board for a month or more you'll find you like extra space. It can carry a large tender for its category (430 novurania) and that's a big benefit. Here's an example. I was on this one during the build and know its history. Twin sea keeper gyro stabilisation installed in build. You can change the cow skin rug. Poster Lozzer on here was employed as its captain for its first two years. http://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2010/Fairline-Squadron-78-2608357/Spain#.VqLKp694WrU
 
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