Blue Sunray
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What is the story? They seem to have pretty solid rep, at least those built 'in house', rather than completed elsewhere, from what I can find.
Ooops seem to have ended up in the Sunseeker sales office....
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What is the story? They seem to have pretty solid rep, at least those built 'in house', rather than completed elsewhere, from what I can find.
EME
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Almost exactly ½ way between -- GBP of course !
jfm
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I don't think its fair to name the boat but one of their recent big builds (last 5 years) that I know very well (70 feet plus) isn't a shining example of boat building when you crawl around behind the scenes, though it has helped the GDP of the aftermarket service and repair sector considerably. There are also some odd practices that you might not like after you've taken delivery, like brown+blue for the DC 24v. (I know that can be justified by wiring regs for buildings, which don't apply to boats, but would you actually want brown blue for both AC and DC on your boat?)
westernman
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Nordhavns seem to be pretty solid on quality and have great accommodation. They will get you anywhere - but not very quickly.
jfm
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Yes indeed - uber quality for this market segment. It would be fun to commission one with a nicer interior than they usually do (looks wise, not quality wise) - that would be one heck of a boat
SammyB
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On paper I have been interested in the Outer Reef.
MapisM
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If I may ask, what's your take on them? Just curious.
benjenbav
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You're pulling my leg? I cannot imagine anyone in the entire history of the world has owned a kitchen with Sub Zero refrigeration and LG anything else?
jfm
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Yup, I is fully serious BJB. That is the mixed bag of high and and low end that Princess install on the 75. I didn't check, but I wouldn't be surprised if the music is B+O amp and speakers fed via a phono lead from a Binatone cassette deck.
BTW, the LG device is a combined washer drier, another bachelor pad item. After you've had 8 folks on board, good luck turning around the bed linens and towels using that supreme piece of laundry equipment. Maybe Princess think you'll have staff for that - if so, good luck retaining them longer than a week.
jfm
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All that said, I do rather like the princess 75. The flaws are mere details.
Anyone got any pics of / links for this new manhattan 52 that OP has reserved? It seems very nice and I've heard good things about it. Would be nice to see pics
Anyone got any pics of / links for this new manhattan 52 that OP has reserved? It seems very nice and I've heard good things about it. Would be nice to see pics
jfm
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Someone just sent me Sunseeker's briochure on the new hattan 52. Wow, it's rather good and moves the game on. Could be best in class all round for a 52 (though it is 56). Flybridge must be best in class, achieved by taking the overhang as far aft as they possibly could and taking the front windscreen well forward, but without spoiling the looks. Flybridge lunch table is far superior to anything else in this size and on par w sq58. Nice foredeck seating and table. Annoyingly the swim platform hilo comes right up to transom (hard to handle tender when platform is down) but you can live with that. Crew cabin access is good– transom door, not a sofa to lift up. Fuel looks tight at 2200 litres but that prob not a deal breaker on this sized boat. Loads of glass. Aft galley. Full mid owners cabin, pillows are v close to engines, but that is somewhat inevitable on this size of boat. Comes with option of shafts or IPS (on jackshafts by looks of it) so will be interesting to see which is the bigger seller. Very nice boat - perfect for what you want OP 
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Someone just sent me Sunseeker's briochure on the new hattan 52. Wow, it's rather good and moves the game on. Could be best in class all round for a 52 (though it is 56). Flybridge must be best in class, achieved by taking the overhang as far aft as they possibly could and taking the front windscreen well forward, but without spoiling the looks. Flybridge lunch table is far superior to anything else in this size and on par w sq58. Nice foredeck seating and table. Annoyingly the swim platform hilo comes right up to transom (hard to handle tender when platform is down) but you can live with that. Crew cabin access is good– transom door, not a sofa to lift up. Fuel looks tight at 2200 litres but that prob not a deal breaker on this sized boat. Loads of glass. Aft galley. Full mid owners cabin, pillows are v close to engines, but that is somewhat inevitable on this size of boat. Comes with option of shafts or IPS (on jackshafts by looks of it) so will be interesting to see which is the bigger seller. Very nice boat - perfect for what you want OP
That does sound rather nice. Any info on range? Are there 2 hull designs or have they just thrown the IPS in to a hull designed for shafts? If so shafts are probably the better option.
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Greenhorn
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I've taken a couple of pics from the brochure......
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And twin engines. Nordhavn will do twins grudgingly but they seem fixated on singles. Always impressed by their industrial strength fit though
Sticky Fingers
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Me too. Looked round the one at SIBS last year, very impressive indeed. Similar quality also available in many high end Dutch boats.
Nick_H
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Thanks Greenhorn. Someone has also sent me the brochure now, it looks a great boat with lots of new features. It would make a great med machine if you decide to proceed with it.
TwoHooter
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<thread-drift>The thing about Nordhavns is that they are built to do one thing exceptionally well: cross oceans. Right now N52 Dirona, N47 Southern Starr, and N46 Starlet are on east-west trans Atlantic passages, another N46 is half way round its fourth circumnavigation, and those are just the ones I know about. Other small motorboats can cross oceans but you very rarely hear about them doing it. One slow-revving main engine with a big reduction to a big prop (plus emergency wing engine) = best possible mpg, that's why they are built like that. Our N40 carries 3,500 litres of fuel and has a 2,500 mile range. Everything on a Nordie is designed to appeal to people who want to cross oceans. That's why they are so different to the average modern motorboat.</thread-drift>
So far as Greenhorn is concerned if he wants a boat for his family to enjoy Med boating I'm not surprised it's the Sunseeker that appeals. We love our Nordie but if we planned to keep our boat in a Med marina and do short trips of a hundred miles or so we might have bought something very different.
Whitelighter
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The M52 looks like a really nice 50ft ish med machine. Love the proper crew can door, love the forward seating, love the fly ridge.
Is that a fold down grill at the stern? Bet that would never get used and a bit gimmicky but a nice looking machine.
Is that a fold down grill at the stern? Bet that would never get used and a bit gimmicky but a nice looking machine.
jfm
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It is, but obviously you'd spec mixing decks instead
:encouragement:The forward seating is quite a gimmick - you would be perched with no proper backrests and it doesn't allow 2 people to lie down and sunbathe (or talk politics) together, meaning that there is nowhere on the boat for 2 peeps to do that. I guess it will sell at boat shows but not be loved once you start using the boat. But that isn't the end of the world and the rest of the boat looks good for med life and family cruising
