One for the deck saloon enthusiasts ?

[Tranona]

Yes, one of the many different variations on the cruising chute theme. I expect the sailmaker has some snazzy name for it. As suggested it might also just be a rather fetching promotional banner as it does seem to be rather large, but that may be deceptive as it is sheeted in very tight.

 

[ashtead]

I don t really want the boat currently but happy to have the sail if anyone knows more even with the branding.

 

[dom]

I don t really want the boat currently but happy to have the sail if anyone knows more even with the branding.

As KC said, you could loosely call it a gennaker (term encompasses any cruisy chute these days) but it is in fact a cruising Code Zero / Code 0 / A 0.

These first appeared on the track where they are subject to specific measurement constraints but were soon adopted on cruisers and especially cats as all round fantastic sails. On cats they are often called screechers!

These sails are especially suited to self-tackers etc. with small foresails, too small to be effective downwind in lighter airs. The Code 0 can be used from about 5-10 degrees off close hauled basically down to wherever a large genny would work. They are typically set ahead of the forestay on a top-down furler to which they are particularly suited.

An excellent sail IMHO and they don't have to be made out of ultra-lightweight spinnaker cloth so can be quite durable. They can also have a UV strip fitted if one wants to leave it up while furled for a few days.

 

[Elessar]

Back to the topic and to agree with one side of this polarised argument.

I am a sailor, used to race 52 weeks a year.

I lived by the Thames and bought a mobo for the river. I am now on mobo no 5, and am exclusively on the sea.
I now love boating on my mobo.

When I retire I want a sail boat but it do not want to give up the benefits of a mobo.
Spacious, light, comfortable living.
Views out at anchor.
Cross channel trips on marginal days wearing a t shirt and flip flops.

The moody does it for me. There is no way I’ll go back to a “downstairs or outside” yacht.

Yes a traditional yacht looks nicer. It will probably sail better. But they don’t make up for the better living on board. And it’s that I do most of.

I can look out of my big windows and enjoy looking at traditional yachts. The people who choose them are not wrong and will remain in the majority. But I will make no apology for my choice which is right for me.

 

[dunedin]

Back to the topic and to agree with one side of this polarised argument.

I am a sailor, used to race 52 weeks a year.

I lived by the Thames and bought a mobo for the river. I am now on mobo no 5, and am exclusively on the sea.
I now love boating on my mobo.

When I retire I want a sail boat but it do not want to give up the benefits of a mobo.
Spacious, light, comfortable living.
Views out at anchor.
Cross channel trips on marginal days wearing a t shirt and flip flops.

The moody does it for me. There is no way I’ll go back to a “downstairs or outside” yacht.

Yes a traditional yacht looks nicer. It will probably sail better. But they don’t make up for the better living on board. And it’s that I do most of.

I can look out of my big windows and enjoy looking at traditional yachts. The people who choose them are not wrong and will remain in the majority. But I will make no apology for my choice which is right for me.

From your description, I suspect you are precisely inside their target market. Experience of modern motor yacht and/ or charter cat, and looking to move to a sailing yacht. Not necessarily a huge niche, but one with currently few competitors to these (Hanse) Moody’s

 

[dunedin]

As KC said, you could loosely call it a gennaker (term encompasses any cruisy chute these days) but it is in fact a cruising Code Zero / Code 0 / A 0

Isn‘t a Code 0 generally set with a tight luff (ours certainly is) - the luff curving forward suggested to me a bit more of flat asymmetric, rather than a pure Code 0, but I am no great expert on these,

 

[dom]

Isn‘t a Code 0 generally set with a tight luff (ours certainly is) - the luff curving forward suggested to me a bit more of flat asymmetric, rather than a pure Code 0, but I am no great expert on these,

No, you're right, a Code 0 typically has a straight luff to enable it to come close to the wind and be easily depowered and twist away more without breaking, in many ways more like a genny than a trad spi/assy.

That said, while the racing Code 0 is quite a specialised sail, cruising sails like the one depicted are free to be whatever they want. Hence sails like this, which doesn't appear to have an inbuilt torsion rope and where the load lines are taken in the luff which must be specced as such. One can't keep the luff nearly as tight as with a torsion rope meaning that on the wind the sail is a bit less effective, but the freer luff enables it to go deeper better, while maintaining the controllability of the sail compared to regular assys.

One can also furl these sails, though they're sometimes bottom-up.

Personally, I think they deliver a bit of the best of two worlds for shorthanded cruising. Others may disagree.

 

[Barbican]

Cross channel trips on marginal days wearing a t shirt and flip flops.

The moody does it for me. There is no way I’ll go back to a “downstairs or outside” yacht.

Yes a traditional yacht looks nicer. It will probably sail better. But they don’t make up for the better living on board. And it’s that I do most of.

Yes I can see the attraction of the Moody, and of deck saloons in general, as you say the views when relaxing below and plenty of natural light make them a great place to live in. The Moody leans more to a single level than say the Regina or Southerly 42 and I guess that shows through in the visibility from the helm. If I were in the market at this size/price then I would be pleased to have some great options - There is something for everyone even within this "niche".

 

[rotrax]

The MK 1 Island Packet SP Cruiser does it for us.

The Moody was far too new to be considered when we bought our current boat - out of budget - but was almost there.

 

[Barbican]

The MK 1 Island Packet SP Cruiser does it for us.

The main criteria! We looked at an IP some years back, I don't think the SP Cruiser was available then, she was a bit pricey so we moved on, I had remembered them because we had at one time owned a Vancouver 27 and a marina neighbour bought a new IP29, he invited us aboard - wow what a lot of space compared to the Vancouver, and a well thought out boat is what stuck in my mind...

 

[rotrax]

The main criteria! We looked at an IP some years back, I don't think the SP Cruiser was available then, she was a bit pricey so we moved on, I had remembered them because we had at one time owned a Vancouver 27 and a marina neighbour bought a new IP29, he invited us aboard - wow what a lot of space compared to the Vancouver, and a well thought out boat is what stuck in my mind...

Was it Tony and Chris with Island Swan?

If it was, they still have it, still looks like new. It is berthed in Chi Marina.

Most IP's are Tardis like.

Look up SP Cruisers for sale and check out the pics.

We think - well, we would, would we not - the SP Cruiser has the edge over the Moody in everything but sailing ability.

Alongside or on the hook they excel.

 

[Barbican]

Was it Tony and Chris with Island Swan?

If it was, they still have it, still looks like new. It is berthed in Chi Marina.

Most IP's are Tardis like.

Look up SP Cruisers for sale and check out the pics.

We think - well, we would, would we not - the SP Cruiser has the edge over the Moody in everything but sailing ability.

Alongside or on the hook they excel.

Yes!! D pontoon