Chiara’s slave
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They’ve always had limited appeal. In a world of mass production, you need some real demand to make it worth producing.
Not sure I'm warming to this modern "blue water" sailing ....
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dansaskip
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Hats off to all the Vendee Globe skippers, but it not the style of sailing that I enjoy.
Blueboatman
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Here’s an article on it.
Jimmy Buffett's Surfari 50 Drifter - Aventura Magazine.
Ted Fontaine designer.
And the ‘cave’ steering pod with winches and jammers looks very different!
I like the lifting keel, so you can whizz the ocean and then potter across the coastal bits , not so sure about the pot trapper front keel bulb projection.
Being a boat the whole thing cost 2x original estimate
Minerva
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I'd very much like a lift keel pilot house boat, but that one - Not exactly a looker, is it? Plus a wheel stuck right in the middle of the pilot house looks a right pain then brining wet ropes into the dry pilot house sounds fairly unpleasant too. Not choices I'd make
Blueboatman
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Very American styling!
But each iteration of the concept seems to be bringing us closer to an easy to live with, easy on the eye, performance pilothouse.
My problem is I like to drop the dodger and steer from aft tucked into the Lee corner of the cockpit yet with an unblemished forward view.
Back to something like this then for me , as if!
Photo credit leonardo yachts
Supertramp
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You mean something like this? Bestaever 36, too scared to ask what it costs. Not exactly beautiful but lots of functionality.
LittleSister
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Minerva
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Something like that or a Boreal or Garcia - seems to be a few being marketed and built these days. Hoping that in 10 years-ish when I look to retire they might just be getting affordable for my pocket.
One can but dream!
Roberto
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Apart from the cave, I personally find a lot of nice to have features in racing boats interiors
1. All cabling, hosing, plumbing, wiring etc are visible and immediately serviceable (instead of having to dismantle half of the cabinetry to find an oxydized contact or locate a leak)
2. No wood, only plastic: the boat interiors could be cleaned/washed with a pressure hose, then all grey water flushed out from the bilge (compare to wood varnishing, upholstery fabric cleaning, collecting/vacuum dust in awkward places, etc). Why not a final few drops of Alpine Green Pastures scent
3. Exceptional navigation position: sitting in a comfortable chair with instruments all around, where one can also take a nap. I'd still keep a chart table but that s me.
4. The structural elements beams stringers etc can be the only permanent fixture: one could swap cabins, swap a working space with berths, modify the general layout to suit different sailing periods, when the boat is used in different ways.
1. All cabling, hosing, plumbing, wiring etc are visible and immediately serviceable (instead of having to dismantle half of the cabinetry to find an oxydized contact or locate a leak)
2. No wood, only plastic: the boat interiors could be cleaned/washed with a pressure hose, then all grey water flushed out from the bilge (compare to wood varnishing, upholstery fabric cleaning, collecting/vacuum dust in awkward places, etc). Why not a final few drops of Alpine Green Pastures scent
3. Exceptional navigation position: sitting in a comfortable chair with instruments all around, where one can also take a nap. I'd still keep a chart table but that s me.
4. The structural elements beams stringers etc can be the only permanent fixture: one could swap cabins, swap a working space with berths, modify the general layout to suit different sailing periods, when the boat is used in different ways.
Chiara’s slave
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It helps hugely if it’s not fuglyWell, not that modern, but they did produce 1,500 of these:
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That is almost cute.Minerva
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That's lovely. Looks just the job for a warm evening, mid week sail in good weather.
Punching into a cold, wet, brisk Northerly on a dreich August day for 4 hours would take the shine off somewhat!
Daydream believer
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Supertramp
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You mean one of these? Never heard of them until now. I think Bestaever are more aligned with Sirius/Garcia/Boreal.I thought that Brent Swain had been kicked off the forum
Daydream believer
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Having seen a Bestaever 40 in the flesh in Ostend I can only say what a fugly looking tub they are. Certainly missed out on the queue when the yacht designers were looking for work. I cannot imagine how bad they must be sailing upwind.
Frank Holden
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Ovnis seemed to be all the rage in Patagonia between 2010/19. Passing through you understand - not locally owned.
I guess they all got to where they were going - haven't seen a single one post covid.
I guess they all got to where they were going - haven't seen a single one post covid.
Stemar
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I couldn't find a 40, but this is a 42.
I quite like it; no one would call it pretty, but it has a tough, purposeful air. With a centreboard, it can dry out too. I'm not going to say I'd buy one if it were in my budget, but it would definitely go on the list.
I quite like it; no one would call it pretty, but it has a tough, purposeful air. With a centreboard, it can dry out too. I'm not going to say I'd buy one if it were in my budget, but it would definitely go on the list.
capnsensible
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I delivered one of those some years back from Horta to Port Halguien on the Atlantic coast of France. Nice to sail and very comfortable.
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