Newbie help please. Merry Fisher vs Aquador (vs others)

Phil_boat

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Hello, first post and we're on the search for our first boat.

My folks have always had boats so when younger I spent a lot of time boating, they still have a boat now - so I'm not going in blind :)

We live on the West Coast of Scotland, so it will be up the Clyde, trips across to Arran and assuming it all goes well we'd hope to be able to get up to Oban and beyond eventually.

We're looking at 10ish years old max, something comfortable for day trips with family and friends, overnight for the 2 of us and under 8m. With our very max budget of £45k.

Outboard very much appeals for simplicity and servicing costs. I know of petrol availability issues, we can work around this (although maybe in a few years we may find it the limiting factor).

Our budget puts us firmly in Merry Fisher 6xx or just 7xx territory. Yesterday we went to see a very tidy 2016 795 with a 150HP Yamaha - the openness and airiness of it was great. The finish could be better but for what it's supposed to do it does it well. I read that they are well regarded but slam a bit in any kind of sea. We wouldn't plan to be out in anything bad it's Scotland so it can happen.

I have also seen (very far away!) an Aquador 22C, well under budget - which looks ace and the hooligan in me thinks something 22ft with a 250HP outboard will be a lot of fun. There will be very few days that it's glassy smooth out there though so its full potential will very rarely get used. The layout inside is very similar to the MF, less space outside and the roof is lower so it's not going to feel as spacious. It looks like a decent tidy boat, I haven't seen it yet though and there isn't much info about them.

Head says MF, heart says Aquador.

I don't need something that will do 40kts... I'd like something that can cruise around 20kts, both should happily do that.

I know something with a heavy diesel in the bottom will be better in weather but it's for fair weather days and I don't want to have to deal with servicing etc.

So cheers if you're read all of that and please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks :)
 
@rafiki_ thanks but it needs a fully enclosed wheelhouse, small galley and berth. Anything open is a no goer for the wife, and it was her idea to get a boat so she gets quite a big say in this :)
 
Found a nice little 755 Marlin that we're going to take a second look at :)

Not many of them around, but seems perfect for us assuming condition is good.
 
After I sold my Mitchell 31 and 105 and stopped chartering, I bought a new 755 Marlin with a 150 HP. (150 was only just enough - I'd suggest 200 min)

It looked great, but within days of using it I was wishing I still had the Mitchell. It's not that it "slams" as such, but it's quite light (trailerable). In flat clam it was great, wizzing along on the plane but in any sort of sea it bounced and bashed and was quite tiring after an hour or so. It was okay for me in that I fished and only ran maybe 40 mins from the harbour, but I'd not want to do a days cruising unless it was calm. If cruising is your thing I would not be so quick to discount a semi displacement diesel.
 
150 hp on a nearly 8 metre boat is insufficient in my view.

Add people fuel water and kit and it will be slower still.

My profile photo shows my Saver 690 with a 200 Verado. I could cruise at 20-25 knots easily.

I would think a 250 outboard would match an 8 metre boat....
 
Small wheel house with lots of external space to do what ? Ok if you fish I guess 😉

It fits the original brief of mostly day boat with the ability to spend a few nights on it and get out of the weather. Nice safe deck to move about on, ideal for my wife to learn about boating on I should think.

The non Marlin 795 does have more space inside but the outside is not as nice to move around on.


After I sold my Mitchell 31 and 105 and stopped chartering, I bought a new 755 Marlin with a 150 HP. (150 was only just enough - I'd suggest 200 min)

It looked great, but within days of using it I was wishing I still had the Mitchell. It's not that it "slams" as such, but it's quite light (trailerable). In flat clam it was great, wizzing along on the plane but in any sort of sea it bounced and bashed and was quite tiring after an hour or so. It was okay for me in that I fished and only ran maybe 40 mins from the harbour, but I'd not want to do a days cruising unless it was calm. If cruising is your thing I would not be so quick to discount a semi displacement diesel.

Tbh everything that we were looking at would be similar, it seems that manufacturers have fully embraced outboards.

I know there will be much more comfortable sea boats out there but I don’t want to get into something 20+ years old with an inboard engine and all the extra hassle that comes with it.

150 hp on a nearly 8 metre boat is insufficient in my view.

Add people fuel water and kit and it will be slower still.

My profile photo shows my Saver 690 with a 200 Verado. I could cruise at 20-25 knots easily.

I would think a 250 outboard would match an 8 metre boat....

The 795 with 150 has been discounted, the 755 has a 200 Suzuki.

That sort of money might get a Seaward 25, a bit different to what you are looking at but worth a look.

Same response as the Mitchell suggestion I think and our budget only just gets a 20year old boat. And twin diesels!
 
Cheers all, the Marlin is bought. Should have it this week.

The Marlin wins vs the 795 on looks, engine, 360* vis and deck space. Sea trial was on a choppy and it rode as expected. We’ll see how it gets used over the next couple of years and see if it suits us or needs changing.

The Aquador was discounted when I realised how small it is.
 
Cheers all, the Marlin is bought. Should have it this week.

The Marlin wins vs the 795 on looks, engine, 360* vis and deck space. Sea trial was on a choppy and it rode as expected. We’ll see how it gets used over the next couple of years and see if it suits us or needs changing.

The Aquador was discounted when I realised how small it is.
Hi Phil.. Congrats on the purchase. Any chance of some pics now (I assume) you've collected her...?
 
With a 150hp Suzuki on the back of a Merry Fisher 725 gave a cruise of about 14knots and tops out just over the 20knots, and it does slam a bit in a chop. On our PB2 course out of Largs we were out on a force 6 decreasing to force 5, she did handle the weather fine but the slam gave my wife a sore back, still she loved it.

Congrats on your new to you boat 👍
 
Yes we have it now :) Took a little while as the sea trial showed that it really needed trim tabs to level the roll to port, so the broker fitted Zipwakes. It’s still with them waiting for an auxiliary outboard bracket to be fitted this week before we move it an hour down the coast to home.

But they put it in the water for us to use at the weekend so had two brilliant days of shakedown trips out of Largs. Up to Rhu & back the first day then through the Kyles of Bute to Buttock Point and back to Rothesay for lunch with friends.

Very happy with it 😎 Couple of little jobs to sort like nav lights not working, needs another 12v socket or 2 for charging, vinyl wrap around windows could do with replacing and a couple of other little things but nothing major that will stop us using it, jobs for the winter.

It goes well, 30kts flat out and I think with some fresh anti foul there’s another kt or 2 left. It sits very comfortably between 18 & 22kts. 20kts is about 25litres/h. (WOT was an alarming 65+ 🫣🤣).
 
With a 150hp Suzuki on the back of a Merry Fisher 725 gave a cruise of about 14knots and tops out just over the 20knots, and it does slam a bit in a chop. On our PB2 course out of Largs we were out on a force 6 decreasing to force 5, she did handle the weather fine but the slam gave my wife a sore back, still she loved it.

Congrats on your new to you boat 👍

You mean the ScotSail 725 that I’ve seen in Largs I guess?

On Sunday it was a bit lumpy across to Bute and yes it does slam a little bit if you’re not careful but we just slowed down and it needed a bit of driving on the throttle off the top of the bigger waves. I think it handled it well tbh.

The worst thing about the slamming was that the plotter would shut off. I took the back of the dash panel off to see if there was anything obvious and found this

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4 wires barely holding on. 5 minutes with a multi-way Wago connector and it seems to have fixed it. I’m going to go through all the wiring behind here and give it a tidy up soon.

Flushing the engine is a wee bit awkward 😆

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