ShinyShoe
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That was kinda my point... You won't fail... So zoidberg seems to be in his own third division?
New (to me) sailboat, new to the hobby, help me spend my savings!
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SleepyWill
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Back to idiots guide mode for a second, because this is turning into a language I don't quite understand:
I, as an owner of a second hand boat that came with a VHS - and as someone who wants to sail with that VHS - needs to do 3 things I think:
1. Register my boat to get a new MMSI number - or find out what the already allocated number is (How would I go about this?)
2. Register myself with ofsted
3. Take the course with an RYA approved testing centre and pass the exam at the end of it
Edit: I'm leaving my VHS - VHF typo. I deserve all the ribbing that comes my way for it
I, as an owner of a second hand boat that came with a VHS - and as someone who wants to sail with that VHS - needs to do 3 things I think:
1. Register my boat to get a new MMSI number - or find out what the already allocated number is (How would I go about this?)
2. Register myself with ofsted
3. Take the course with an RYA approved testing centre and pass the exam at the end of it
Edit: I'm leaving my VHS - VHF typo. I deserve all the ribbing that comes my way for it
Daverw
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And ofsted, unless your going back to school.
Re your mmsi number, if the radio is DSC it will be listed on its menu, still some power onto it and have a look
You can do a search of boat names, cannot remember where and it shows mmsi and call sign, both that stay with the boat, just the owner changes similar to your car vin number
Re your mmsi number, if the radio is DSC it will be listed on its menu, still some power onto it and have a look
You can do a search of boat names, cannot remember where and it shows mmsi and call sign, both that stay with the boat, just the owner changes similar to your car vin number
Sticky Fingers
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Yes, that's what you'd hope for.
The point being made was, I think, that there'd been no changes to emergency procedures, and that there had been no change notice issued, both of which are incorrect.
langstonelayabout
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Back to idiots guide mode for a second, because this is turning into a language I don't quite understand:
I, as an owner of a second hand boat that came with a VHS - and as someone who wants to sail with that VHS - needs to do 3 things I think:
1. Register my boat to get a new MMSI number - or find out what the already allocated number is (How would I go about this?)
2. Register myself with ofsted
3. Take the course with an RYA approved testing centre and pass the exam at the end of it
Edit: I'm leaving my VHS - VHF typo. I deserve all the ribbing that comes my way for it
LOL - I'm sure it was proven that Betamax was better...
Yes, register your boat online to get a ship's licence. You will (If you select the correct options) be allocated an MMSI identity. You'll have plenty to print and make sure you keep your username and password safe.
Go on a GMDSS VHS/F course. LSC does them at a discount every year or so. Get your licence once tested/passed.
Buy radio (fixed or handheld, with red button) and install as necessary. Programme your MMSI into the radio. Get it right first time as it can't be reprogrammed without returning it to the manufacturer.
Go sailing. Enjoy calling and chatting with your friends on the correct channels and I hope you never need to use the red button.
Sticky Fingers
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Back to idiots guide mode for a second, because this is turning into a language I don't quite understand:
I, as an owner of a second hand boat that came with a VHS - and as someone who wants to sail with that VHS - needs to do 3 things I think:
1. Register my boat to get a new MMSI number - or find out what the already allocated number is (How would I go about this?)
2. Register myself with ofsted
3. Take the course with an RYA approved testing centre and pass the exam at the end of it
Edit: I'm leaving my VHS - VHF typo. I deserve all the ribbing that comes my way for it
It's Ofcom. Not Ofsted
Boat radio may well already be recorded with Ofcom. You can tell if it's a DSC radio with an MMSI because it will have a "distress" button under a flap. As above, get its MMSI off the menu.
Check it on teh ITU Mars database here:
https://www.itu.int/mmsapp/ShipStation/list
You can then apply for a VHF licence for the boat. That's called the Ships Radio licence. There's also a portable-only licence if you don't have a fixed VHF.
https://ofcom.force.com/licensingcomlogin
The operator's course is recommended but the exam is mandatory. Assuming you pass, that's your operators licence, called a "VHF Short `Range Certificate" or SRC.
EDIT: Too slow...
what Langstone said. ^^
Skylark
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Surely the only procedure he'll need is "Solent Coast Guard, this is SV Anderson 22; radio check please; over"
anoccasionalyachtsman
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Surely the only procedure he'll need is "Solent Coast Guard, this is SV Anderson 22; radio check please; over"
You haven't considered Doppler shift have you?
zoidberg
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Seajet
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I've just found this thread, have been in contact with SleepyWill quite a bit.
The rusty steel deck eyes are peculiar to your boat, part of a custom mast raising system - I've helped raise that mast and it's quite a bit heavier than standard - not a worry just be aware.
The kevlar for the keel winch is a no-no - the wire is very easy to replace as I mention in the 12 page top tips.
I will be at the club soon with the best electrician in the world looking at my boat, will contact you to maybe get a look at your boat at the same time - but I agree all you really need is a well working depthsounder and torches.
As mentioned in top tips the A22 doesn't like weight aft, I use a 65 A/H gel battery under the forepeak - a battery condition meter is very useful, I have a NASA BM-1 display and an old but useful Smiths guage from a car.
The compass cannot be really checked until afloat and able to ' swing ' calibrate it - best to use Mk1 Eyeball and charts - I'd rate good waterproof 8 X 40 binoculars with a built in compass more important than a chart plotter if budget is tight - also some sort of powerful ' searchlight ' if only from Halfords, sod's law means one does get delayed into night time especially when beginning on cruisers - but only use it if you have to as it destroys night vision - and it's never really dark at the moorings due to the bridge road lights.
Don't even think of anchoring at East Head, unless you fancy a cross between the first scenes of ' Saving Private Ryan ' and ' It's a Knockout ' I'll send recommendations,
I suggest you don't launch her too soon, it's much easier to get work done in the club - and you can plug in a 240 v fan heater !
Also most insurers don't like boats on swinging moorings over winter - and whichever one you get needs to have the topchain checked.
I don't fancy inflatable kayaks as tenders, too unstable.
I know you plan to stay in the harbour, but whenever you try the Solent do you know about the - poorly marked - submerged barrier blocks between Eastleigh / Southsea and Horse Sand fort, with a narrow marked gap at the Dolphin halfway out and a less useful one close to the Southsea beach.
The forehatch can be replaced with an ' as is ' direct replacement ' Houdini copy from Ocean Marine at Thornham Marina as mentioned - check bolt spacings and aperture size, or improved upon with say a Lewmar Ocean but that will require a little work.
Andy
The rusty steel deck eyes are peculiar to your boat, part of a custom mast raising system - I've helped raise that mast and it's quite a bit heavier than standard - not a worry just be aware.
The kevlar for the keel winch is a no-no - the wire is very easy to replace as I mention in the 12 page top tips.
I will be at the club soon with the best electrician in the world looking at my boat, will contact you to maybe get a look at your boat at the same time - but I agree all you really need is a well working depthsounder and torches.
As mentioned in top tips the A22 doesn't like weight aft, I use a 65 A/H gel battery under the forepeak - a battery condition meter is very useful, I have a NASA BM-1 display and an old but useful Smiths guage from a car.
The compass cannot be really checked until afloat and able to ' swing ' calibrate it - best to use Mk1 Eyeball and charts - I'd rate good waterproof 8 X 40 binoculars with a built in compass more important than a chart plotter if budget is tight - also some sort of powerful ' searchlight ' if only from Halfords, sod's law means one does get delayed into night time especially when beginning on cruisers - but only use it if you have to as it destroys night vision - and it's never really dark at the moorings due to the bridge road lights.
Don't even think of anchoring at East Head, unless you fancy a cross between the first scenes of ' Saving Private Ryan ' and ' It's a Knockout '
I'll send recommendations,I suggest you don't launch her too soon, it's much easier to get work done in the club - and you can plug in a 240 v fan heater !
Also most insurers don't like boats on swinging moorings over winter - and whichever one you get needs to have the topchain checked.
I don't fancy inflatable kayaks as tenders, too unstable.
I know you plan to stay in the harbour, but whenever you try the Solent do you know about the - poorly marked - submerged barrier blocks between Eastleigh / Southsea and Horse Sand fort, with a narrow marked gap at the Dolphin halfway out and a less useful one close to the Southsea beach.
The forehatch can be replaced with an ' as is ' direct replacement ' Houdini copy from Ocean Marine at Thornham Marina as mentioned - check bolt spacings and aperture size, or improved upon with say a Lewmar Ocean but that will require a little work.
Andy
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FairweatherDave
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Don't even think of anchoring at East Head, unless you fancy a cross between the first scenes of ' Saving Private Ryan ' and ' It's a Knockout '
I know you plan to stay in the harbour, but whenever you try the Solent do you know about the - poorly marked - submerged barrier blocks between Eastleigh / Southsea and Horse Sand fort, with a narrow marked gap at the Dolphin halfway out and a less useful one close to the Southsea beach.
Andy
Andy loves slating East Head. It is brilliant for kids but can get crowded and anchors do drag. But brilliant place for "beach life" and Cobbs and sunsets.... Not so sheltered in a northerly obviously but that can be a pain if your intention is to just get to the best beach.
Agree you need to be aware of the submarine barrier and where to pass through. That and the perils of Chichester bar on the ebb in a direct fresh southerly are the only things to be aware of.
ashtead
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Whilst we are discussing the horrors of Chi harbour do be aware tat moorings in Thornham clreek have a habit of running ashore in winter on Prinsted beach . Don't know how secure other moorings are but best to be tucked up safely ashore in Chi unless locked in to marinas maybe?
SleepyWill
Member
Thanks Andy! I'll have to catch you next time you're down, and pick your brains about working on the boat at the club especially, I don't know what's allowed and what's available for us to use. Now that things are dry (hatch aside) and with a rigging & keel quote incoming hopefully this week, I can focus on seaworthiness, the anchors, the running rig etc. Once all that's done, it'll be lights and depth sounder and log? I would imagine when the mist closes in, and eyeballing is no longer possible, speed over water will be nice to know, on the off-chance my gps is not working. I wasn't planning on keeping her on the water over winter, or putting her in early - well, maybe I might sneak in a weekend early or two, but nothing drastic - but as I didn't know whether I would have to shift her immediately after buying from the club, I did make sure I was insured to do so. Whether the claim would ever be paid out is another matter, but in theory I am covered! I've asked several times at the club and no-one will commit to an answer, with me being a new member, will I have to join a waiting list for a mooring do you think?
On the tender, I think I'm going to be buying an inflatable touring canoe anyway, for canoe camping so there's no harm in trying it out as a tender and I'll let you know how it goes. Still haven't opened the vomit bag up... Not doing it tomorrow either!
I have to be honest, I'll usually only frequent the beach on days when others don't, (More of Takeshi's Castle man myself
) it sounds like it gets crowded on the nice days - not really my sort of thing but if the family want, I can send them overboard as I pass I was aware of the submarine barrier, it seems pretty well marked on my chart, rather large writing saying submerged barrier, no passage except where indicated (unless I'm looking at the wrong thing) and the deepest gap is marked with lights, after that, it's around the fort.
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Seajet
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Hi,
that all sounds right - with East Head it's not so much anchors dragging as people who don't know what they're doing anchoring too close or on top of ones' anchor, that sort of thing.
If you haven't got a depthsounder yet, I reckon I got a good deal, £130 ( last season, Force 4 ) for a Garmin fishfinder with colour display and a simple but usable 9 waypoint GPS built in - so gives better info and a handy backup if the plotter fails.
See you there over winter,
Andy
that all sounds right - with East Head it's not so much anchors dragging as people who don't know what they're doing anchoring too close or on top of ones' anchor, that sort of thing.
If you haven't got a depthsounder yet, I reckon I got a good deal, £130 ( last season, Force 4 ) for a Garmin fishfinder with colour display and a simple but usable 9 waypoint GPS built in - so gives better info and a handy backup if the plotter fails.
See you there over winter,
Andy
ashtead
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Another idea if you want to get to know the harbour is to paddle board from your slip or shore of choice and keep the paddle board from decathlon say on board in summer months. Very pleasant paddling or canoeing from Prinsted when tide is in but I sure there must be many other places around the harbour where launching is possible and of course making those beach landing at east head from a safe distance out is another use maybe.
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