Mister E
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So plan a night sail, then got drunk and you are sorted.
Only if you want to get around the rules.
New (11/06) CoVid regulations for boats.
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So plan a night sail, then got drunk and you are sorted.
Only if you want to get around the rules.
NotBirdseye
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For all its faults, there is wisdom in an old political system that operates on persuasion and consensus - all lubricated by industrial quantities of fudge - rather than the freshly-minted absolutism of devolved governments.
Looking forward to doing some more hill walking in the Brecon Beacons this summer...maybe?!
Westminster does not operate on 'persuasion and consensus' though
... it operates on the process of the Rule of Might, the strongest party wins... and promptly steamrolls all other representatives. The government of the day is not swayed by the opinions of other parties, it is barely even constrained (as in... it really isn't) by the opinions of the voters of the party that actually put it into power. This system stretches so far that even the election of the MP is not based on consensus, it is based on whether an individual can get more votes than any other party even if 90% of the electorate want nothing to do with that party. :/ Of course every attempt we make at reforming this system whether through recall of MPs or a voting method that is based on consensus... gets rebuffed because it doesn't suit the political powers that be... (we have tried).As for hill walking.... at the moment the Welsh Government have closed the Brecon Beacons except to locals please don't come unless the Welsh Government say it is okay. The local area doesn't need more cases than it already has.
lw395
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You can get nicked for drunk in charge of the boat as well then.
Seven Spades
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Not if you are in your home marina
Elessar
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Interesting. Explains the difference between the “must” and the “should” in the guidance.
However, whilst the Queen and Prince Charles continue to apply common sense and remain at their second homes contrary to this, I’ll treat it as guidance too.
Sticky Fingers
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I don’t think you are alone.
Biggles Wader
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I had been feeling nauseous and thought I might be unfit to drive home so I stayed on the boat. That would be enough and it would have the benefit of taking the moral high ground when compared to Dom and his day out.
V1701
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The powers that be can't win with alcohol - they've got to say you can't drive home drunk to cover their arse in case anyone tries the "I had to drive while over the limit officer because the law says I have to return home" defense. So anyone who chooses to use it as such has an excuse to stay on their boat/in their caravan/tent/WHY...
cherod
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i am not seeing any time span on here ,, is this time limited or is it for ever ??
Elessar
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Rumour is campsites will open early July so it will have to go then.
jordanbasset
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Strikes me that most (not all) of the excuses people suggest using also apply to people in second homes etc
Lucky Duck
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Many places seem to be gearing up for 4 July.
I haven't seen any evidence of this being the case for the marinas and the like (apologies if I missed it), hopefully planning is going on in the background so we don't see a repeat of the events in early May where it was an absolute shambles.
A month later and at least one river is still closed to visitors.
Stork_III
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The Regulations are time limited, unless extended. The Coronavirus Act is subject to 6 monthly confirmation review by the HoC.
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You could take a taxi.
prv
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Only if your second home is on its own in the middle of a field, and while visiting it you do not leave the property to visit local shops, popular walks, etc. Which may apply to some, but not very many.
Pete
Babylon
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Errr... yes, I know all that. Suspect though that you might have missed the point of my original post.
jordanbasset
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I was talking about the excuses some were coming up with. Under the current regulations you can visit your second home (there is no law that it has to be in the middle of a field etc), boat etc but not stay there overnight. For example,
some on here argue if you get drunk you cant drive home- applies to second homes as well
Another example given was if you are feeling nauseous you shouldn't drive home - applies to second homes as well
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cherod
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surely if it is your " second " home then by definition it is not your primary residence .. more muddying of the waters .
bdh198
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If you’re getting drunk with the intention of using that as an excuse to avoid breaching the Regulations and staying on your boat then that defence of a “reasonable excuse” isn’t going get you very far. In reality, how are you going to convince a court that your “getting drunk” was unplanned and incidental to your visit to the beautiful anchorage you found yourself in when you realised you were not in a fit state to drive home.
nicho
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You could always suffer from a bout of migraine, brought on by all the hard work preparing the boat for the season and rendering you unfit for driving home (in my case 150 miles). Would be dangerous to attempt the journey.