Need to replace LPG Cooker

[geegrrl]

I need to replace my current LPG cooker which is a 50cm width x 60cm depth converted LPG domestic model. So ideally I'd like to get a domestic model of the same dimensions so that I can just slot in the replacement. Problem is nobody will deliver or install a domestic model to a boat. I am on the canal in West London near Harlesden and not blessed with bags of cash. So my options are:

1) Find an address on the canal where I can get it delivered. Pay the shop extra for the removal/recycle of the old one. Find a boat certified gas installer to connect it.

2) Buy just a hob that will fit into the space. Collect it myself. Find a boat certified gas installer to connect it.

3) Buy a stand alone hob/grill combo. Collect it myself. Set it on top of the kitchen counter instead of fitting it into the space. Find a boat certified gas installer to connect it.

I've been having a really hard time with all 3 options. With option #1 - I don't know anyone who lives on the canal. With option #2 I can't find a hob that will fit the 50cm width x 60cm depth space. I have seen some domestic hobs that are 60cm width x 50cm depth but the sellers say I cannot install them sideways. With option #3 I really need a 3 or 4 burner model and the only one I've found is £500, so once I've paid for delivery, collection of the old one and installation, I've far exceeded affordability.

Can anyone offer some tips? What would you do? And most importantly can anyone recommend and affordable boat certified gas installer?

 

[Tranona]

You can find a list of gas fitters on the Southern Calor website, or ask your BSS inspector. Might be worth asking the fitter if he will supply and install.

 

[PetiteFleur]

Why do you need a gas fitter to install it - just remove the old one, note how it is connected(just one gas pipe?) and then leaktest it, NOT with a match. Sorry can't help with a replacement.

 

[nigelmercier]

Why do you need a gas fitter to install it ...

Because gas fitters are trained professionals. Screwing a pipe into a socket is beyond the capabilities of a DIY enthusiast.

 

[prv]

Why do you need a gas fitter to install it

Probably because he's a ditchcrawler and they have stricter rules. More likely to blow up the neighbours, I guess, whereas we're free to explode only our family and friends

(I don't actually know if the BSS mentions a qualified fitter, but I do know that the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regs have a specific exemption for "seagoing ships", which the OP's ain't.)

Pete

 

[VicS]

Why do you need a gas fitter to install it - just remove the old one, note how it is connected(just one gas pipe?) and then leaktest it, NOT with a match. Sorry can't help with a replacement.

Probably because he's a ditchcrawler and they have stricter rules. More likely to blow up the neighbours, I guess, whereas we're free to explode only our family and friends

(I don't actually know if the BSS mentions a qualified fitter, but I do know that the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regs have a specific exemption for "seagoing ships", which the OP's ain't.)

Pete

I don't think there are any rules which require a canal dweller to have gas appliances installed by a Gas Safe installer but I might have missed something.

The installation must pass a BSS inspection and there are rules about what is required if the BSS inspector is not gas safe registered. If I've got it right something along the lines that if a leak detector is fitted a non Gas Safe registered inspector can test it himself but if not he must observe a Gas Safe registered fitter checking the installation with a manometer.

 

[charles_reed]

I need to replace my current LPG cooker which is a 50cm width x 60cm depth converted LPG domestic model. So ideally I'd like to get a domestic model of the same dimensions so that I can just slot in the replacement. Problem is nobody will deliver or install a domestic model to a boat. I am on the canal in West London near Harlesden and not blessed with bags of cash. So my options are:

1) Find an address on the canal where I can get it delivered. Pay the shop extra for the removal/recycle of the old one. Find a boat certified gas installer to connect it.

2) Buy just a hob that will fit into the space. Collect it myself. Find a boat certified gas installer to connect it.

3) Buy a stand alone hob/grill combo. Collect it myself. Set it on top of the kitchen counter instead of fitting it into the space. Find a boat certified gas installer to connect it.

I've been having a really hard time with all 3 options. With option #1 - I don't know anyone who lives on the canal. With option #2 I can't find a hob that will fit the 50cm width x 60cm depth space. I have seen some domestic hobs that are 60cm width x 50cm depth but the sellers say I cannot install them sideways. With option #3 I really need a 3 or 4 burner model and the only one I've found is £500, so once I've paid for delivery, collection of the old one and installation, I've far exceeded affordability.

Can anyone offer some tips? What would you do? And most importantly can anyone recommend and affordable boat certified gas installer?

Look @ Caravan shops for one of the Leisure Products LPG stoves. I'm pretty sure they fit with space to spare - don't buy the Plastimo rebadge, it's about x2 the price.
Whilst (from memory) the Waterways rules set down strict paramenters for the installation of LPG systems, as far as I know they don't demand the use of a certified gas fitter.
One of the disadvantages of this site (or rather the adherents) is they love a good free-for-all about arcana and soon drift away from the original question.

 

[Iliade]

GP Barnes in Southwick are Calor Gas agents and installers as well as being chandlers.

They have quite a few LPG hobs and the like sitting on the shelf, many of which have been there for years.

Also I suspect that most top controlled hobs could indeed be fitted sideways with no issues, providing the controls were not at the back of the hob once fitted.

I doubt you would want to pay them to travel up to you to fit the thing. However, there must be LPG gas fitters local to you as there are usually plenty of houses off the main supply.

(I am starting to sound like an advertising agent for this place today, but they are one of the old style chandleries, where there are piles of stuff, new and old, which one can rummage through to find just what you want, even though it went out of production during the last millennium!)

 

[geegrrl]

Thanks all! Great replies.